Al13
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Is connecting on deep passes important to our offense?
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Saves....I love you man..but this is just nonsense.saves said:
But some things you said here are correct.
1) Wanny is a great guy.
2)The players like him.
3)He treats his players well.
4)Missing tackles isnt the coaches fault.
All four of these statements are true....albiet irrelevant.
1) I don't care what kind of guy he is, I care what kind of coach he is. As a guy, hes great. As a coach, he sucks. He gets paid to coach...and he really shouldn't.
2) I don't want the players to "like" him. Many of the NE players don't like Belichick. Who cares? The respect him. They win SBs. Same with Parcells, same with Walsh, etc, etc. Winning is all that matters.
3) He not only treats his players well, he spoils them. And they reward him by playing like babies in the big games. Two years ago, we beat NE and we win our division. Did we? No, we allowed them to score 11 points in 4.5 minutes to tie the game, and then we allowed them to kick a FG in OT to win it. And Zach, JT, Sammy...all still treated great by Dw. Not a winnng formula.
4) I don't care whose fault it is. I care about who takes responsibility for it. He is supposed to be responsible. But because WH is in a comatose state, DW not only gets retained, but gets an extension. Geez. I wish he were my boss. I could totally suck, and get to stay around another two years.
Your statements are all good,,,,but they don't matter. Winning is ALL that matters.
MajorCanz said:
You should just give up. You just shifted from incorrect statement to another. The Boys went 10-6 last year, not 11-5. They made the playoffs only because they are in the weaker conference. You should only make statements that you can back up.
As to your other two questions, you can't be serious.....
They went to the playoffs in 2001 and they won a playoff game in 2000. They missed the playoffs by a tie breaker in 2002 after suffering a ton of injuries and they missed the playoffs in 2003 with a 10-6 record, the first time in almost 20 years that has happened to a team.
FIN-IN-RI
☠️ Banned ☠️
deep passes = spreads out the D = unpredictablility on O = running room for ricky
MajorCanz said:
You are correct and the Fins are 41-23, and 2-2 for playoff appearances during Wanny's tenure. That should count for something. By your standards there should be 31 HC's fired every year and Parcells should have been one of them.
Bottom line is this, Buffalo...FinfanInBuffalo said:
Conference, division, schedule....the Cowboys overachieved to make the playoffs. No one was picking them to even break even, and they made the playoffs. The standard set for the Fins was to make the playoffs..and we couldnt EVEN do that. Enough back up for ya?
As for the weaker conference, I think I remember the Eagles smacking us last year on national tv. Not that weak, huh?
The NFL is about playoff football...and each teams expectations to get there.FinfanInBuffalo said:
As for the other teams and their coaches, thats for them to decide. I only know what history shows. Find me a coach that took more than 5 years to take his team to the SB.
Of the coaches in the NFL, most that have made the playoffs before and haven't for two straight seasons are fired. And if not, its because Pittsburgh has never fired a coach or some other strange scenario. But its not common. DW is the exception here...as you people are that defend him.
Nicky Napoleon
We'll Miss You Nubs
While the deep ball isnt necessary to win in our system, it will take alot of pressure off of all involved. Having a deep threat really opens up the field for everything else that we want to do. Deep balls will force the safety's to stay back which opens up RW and the running game. Also with the safties back it will open up the middle for McMichael and the WR's. So IMO while the deep pass isnt necessary it is important.
MajorCanz said:
I thought you said it was about winning.....
Here's a name for you .... Mike Shanahan...made playoffs in 2000, missed in 2001 and 2002....what a surprise, he wasn't fired...
MajorCanz said:
Bottom line is that you have a "thing" for Wanny, and the reality of the situation doesn't matter to you....
T-Bone
Practice Squad
Deep passes are very important to opening up the running game. The threat alone helps Ricky find the holes he needs to break some serious runs.
MajorCanz said:
You got another thread going with this discussion, please stick to that one....
Coaches that have NOT taken their team to an SB within 5 years...Let me see, Ted Marchibroda (Colts 75-79), Chuck Knox (Buffalo 78-82), Paul Brown (Cleveland 68-75), Sam Rutigliano (Cleveland 78-84), Bill Belichik (Cleveland 91-95), also Don Shula from 74-83. I could go on but I think I made my point...
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RUDEbyallMEANS
Perennial All-Pro
At some point, the blame goes to the players rather than the coach. Miami's offensive line was absolutely horrible last year. Wannstedt and Norv were very limited in their play calls whether it was because of Fiedler inconsistent play, his weak arm, the o-lines lack of a back bone or a WR unwilling to step up in games to take pressure off of Chambers and McMichael.
At some point, the blame turns from Wannstedt to the players.
This Miami team won 10 games last year with a horrible offense. That in itself is pretty incredible. Miami brings in Marc Trestman and Jerry Sullivan to improve the coaching staff.
Whether or not Miami has the QB or o-line strength to make it deep this year is questionable.
At some point, the blame turns from Wannstedt to the players.
This Miami team won 10 games last year with a horrible offense. That in itself is pretty incredible. Miami brings in Marc Trestman and Jerry Sullivan to improve the coaching staff.
Whether or not Miami has the QB or o-line strength to make it deep this year is questionable.