Jets probably won't take Leinart

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  1. Schleprock

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    http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/ny-spjchalk224561822dec22,0,7641340.column?coll=ny-sports-headlines

    So, if Young enters the draft and Cutler has a solid Senior Bowl and combine as Kiper et al. are believing he will....does Leinart become another Aaron Rodgers? Not necessarily dropping so far, but out of the top 5-10? I think yes, that could be a possibility. Which in turn would leave him in our area to pick.

    P.S. Should they tak ehim, remember, that's $35-40 million guaranteed they have to give to another QB.
     
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    Even if the Jets don't pick Leinart, he likely won't fall out of the top-5. A team would trade up for him. It's already been said that he'll have a higher grade coming out than Palmer or Eli. If the Jets are at #2, and really don't want Leinart, they'll work a trade.
     
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    Leinart will not make it past the Titans. If he is there when they pick then he is there QB for the future.
     
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    Cards would jump all over him!
     
  6. Schleprock

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    your missing the key point guys...I said IF YOUNG DECLARES and CUTLER SHOWS PROMISE. Should this happen, I don't think Leinart is going to be Mr. Jock Rider anymore. Call me crazy, but it's a no brainer Leinart already cost himself millions upon millions by staying another year at school.

    If Young does not declare then I think Leinart is OK, but if Young beats Leinart in the NC and declares, I think Matty Boy is in trouble. Especially if he just plays Ehhhhh in the game like he has his last couple big games.
     
  7. Mike13

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    I also doubt the Jets will take Lienart, but I doubt he falls too us also.
     
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    Leinart will be the first QB taken regardless of Young comes out or Cutler has a good Senior Bowl.

    I agree that Tennessee will be the first team to take him if he falls there.
     
  9. Phinman

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    Ravens won't let him slide by! Doubt the Lions would either!
     
  10. Motion

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    agreed
     
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    um, no, that won't happen. rodgers fell because he had too many questions on him. leinart doesn't really (nothing major anyway) and was the lock for #1 overall last year. he's done nothing to hurt his stock, if anything he improved it. he'll still be the first QB taken, or GMs will lose their jobs when they draft vince young or whatever other oevrhyped trash is sitting around
     
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    yeah ive never thought the jets would take him... but i doubt he drops too much further...
     
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    If Culter really improves his stock, we won't be able to draft him, Leinart or Young unless we move up. All three may end up as top ten picks. Remember in 98 when Couch, McNabb, and A. Smith went 1-3 overall? They probably won't go in that order, but they'll be top 10 picks.

    There are 3 teams picking ahead of us that really need a QB, and several that may want a QB. Arizona, Oakland, and New Orleans all look like they want a new QB. Titans, Browns, Ravens and Texans may go QB or they may stick with what they have. I dont think the rest of the teams ahead of us (Jets, Buffalo, Philly, San Fran, and St. Louis) will look to draft a QB.
     
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    i think oakland won't either. andrew walter is a stud
     
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    Exactly. Leinart would have to suffer a serious injury to drop significantly, probably an arm or shoulder injury. Otherwise no chance a developmental wingding like Cutler or a jackrabbit like Young is going ahead of him, or anything close to that. At QB only a Brady Quinn could potentially go ahead of Leinart.

    The comparisons to Aaron Rodgers don't wash. Leinart respects Texas and will still up in this game just like vs. Oklahoma last year. His passes will have more zip than typical. Against lesser foes he does have somewhat of a tendency to float some passes.

    Rodgers threw 5 yard passes at Cal last year. I mentioned that almost immediately upon joining this forum. I attended the USC/Cal game in the Coliseum in 2004 and sorority girls sitting a few seats away from my group were literally laughing at Rodgers' reluctance to throw the ball downfield, even though you could see receivers breaking open downfield. For some reason the TV coverage and announcers didn't mention that aspect. I was stunned when I got back to Las Vegas and watched the tape of the game. They made Rodgers out to be God when at the game he looked tentative and flawed. Finally it took Merrill Hoge on ESPN to correctly critique Rodgers' performance in the USC game, and in 2004 in general throwing all the wimpy short passes, a few days before the draft.
     
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    Saints won't either!
     
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    why?
     
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    If it came to it, the Saints future is so muddy that I think Leinart might pull an Eli Manning and tell them he won't play for them. It has to be considered a valid threat too, because he already passed up the NFL for ballroom dancing once...it couldn't hurt TOO much more to do it again, stay in hollywood for a year still partying with hot women and living like a celeb. Mike Williams still got taken #10 and he hadn't played football in like 2 years.
     
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    Why, because they are done with Aaron Brooks and need a QB, that's WHY!
     
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    I was hoping we'd be able to pick him in the 4th last year. Damned Raiders. To quote Blue Lazer, "I hate them so much!"

    Ah, well. The draft turned out pretty nicely for us, lol.
     
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    I think he thought you meant that the Saints won't take Leinart. They would, I just speculate that Matt would pull an Eli Manning if it looked like he might end up a Saint.

    Oakland would not let Andrew Walter's presence prevent them from taking Matt Leinart. Any team that does that, passes on Leinart because you like your 4th round guy, is just idiotic. Sorry.
     
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    I hope the other GM's draft those overhyped QBs and maybe allow us to have a shot at Leinart maybe through a quick trade-up. If he wears aqua and white next season, I'm all for it.
     
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    we need a good qb here people and i say we trade up to get quinn or linehart and roll on down the road because we ane not going to get a good playmaker at where we pick its that simple. but who the heck knows.
     
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    It kind of sucks this year because so many other teams suddenly need a QB for the future. Titans, Jets, Saints, and possibly the Texans and Ravens. I know there is not going to be enough "Great" Qb's in the draft so we might be kind of screwed.
     
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    Leinart is a higher rated QB then Young. Doesn't matter how the national championship goes, all of Matt's QB mechanics are leagues above Young's.
     
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    We would have to sort of hope that the Texans and Ravens decide to give their young guys another year. The Jets are kind of hemming and hawing right now, hard to figure out. It's like they want Phil Rivers, Vince Young, or Jay Cutler, but not Matt Leinart. Makes no sense. Rivers and Leinart are kind of similar except Leinart has a little bit of a stronger arm and flawless mechanics. I do still think New Orleans future is so bleak that some players might try and snub them. I'm sure the Titans would take Matt Leinart in a heart beat...but not so sure about the other guys (Cutler, Young).
     
  27. whatsburning

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    Leinart, Young, Cutler, and the rest of the QB class this year is pretty deep that I'm not worrying too much who falls to us. Any I do say "fall", because whoever we get will turn out to be a gem.
     
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    I just want a good young QB that we can mold into our franchise QB for the next 5+ years. Obviously, I prefer Cutler but I'm just ready for some stability at QB and not other teams castoffs. I'm tired of the mediocra Qb play we've had since Dan.
     
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    Yeah, we all want that...but it's good to maintain a healthy fear that a guy like Cutler will be yet another in a loooong line of first round busts.
     
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    Leinart is deffenitly the best QB in the draft. and he will be the first QB taken, even if Vince Young goes or Brady Quinn. Leinart is a top 5 pick.
     
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    its not like he will be good in the nfl.
     

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