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luck is light years ahead of ryan

If Luck is light years ahead of RT, then how did he lose to us this year in his home dome?
 
shouright said:
Sure there are. Game to game in 2013, the correlations between the key passing stats for Tannehill and the team's number of rushes, number of yards rushing, and yards per carry, are very small.

If it's true that he would've done better with a better running game, then when the running game actually was better, he should've done better, but that isn't the case. His performance was independent of the running game.

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You don't know what's good and what isn't if you don't look at what the other QBs in the league are doing.
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Or one could argue the sample size was too small because our run game was pretty darn pathetic game in and game out. Also the game of football is more than just numbers, you have to look at things that aren't tangible like momentum and there are certain correlations that cannot be contrived because the variables are infinite. Basically just because you have raw data on a few games where we had an ok run game it would take a time machine and an assassination of a certain dolphins coordinator to get a real answer.
 
Hayden Fox said:
4. RT needs to develop at his pace
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With all due respect Hayden, if Tannehill keeps developing at his current pace we'll make the Super Bowl in 2087. Let's get him a real QB coach and real OC and accelerate that pace dramatically.
 
Dolphins7273 said:
No. I'm just pointing out how dumb it was to say that Luck isn't light years ahead of Tannehill because Tannehill got lucky, and won an early season game against him.
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I think they ( Luck and Tanne) are a lot closer then you might think.
Numerous factors like the Bill D line totally dominating our O line probably had more impact then Lewis vs Tanne.
 
shouright said:
Palma you have to understand that when a belief is near and dear, it takes a perfect correlation to cast any doubt on it. There can't be any exceptions to the rule, because the person about whom the belief is near and dear (Tannehill) will be thought to be an exception as well! ;)
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Okay, since College numbers matter so much, would you rather have Jason White or Tom Brady as your current NFL starting QB?


College numbers do not give us a great deal of information in the projection of future NFL success, plain and simple. To use Tannehill's college numbers to project future success does nobody any good because there are enough examples of great college QBs who were duds in the pros and vise versa.
 
jnewmant said:
Or one could argue the sample size was too small because our run game was pretty darn pathetic game in and game out. Also the game of football is more than just numbers, you have to look at things that aren't tangible like momentum and there are certain correlations that cannot be contrived because the variables are infinite. Basically just because you have raw data on a few games where we had an ok run game it would take a time machine and an assassination of a certain dolphins coordinator to get a real answer.
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Well if we don't know anything because the variables are infinite, then how can we say with any certainty at all that Ryan Tannehill would play better with a better running game? Aren't there also potentially an infinite number of variables that would preclude that from happening?

In other words, you can't make the simple statement that if X, then Y, and then when that statement isn't supported, suddenly say that A, B, C, D, E, F, and G are also needed to make X become Y. What happens if A through G never line up in the right way?
 
Joba-nator said:
Take a gander at Dan Marino's college stats, especially his senior year and you'll see why college numbers mean nothing in the NFL. If they did Timmy Chang would've been on his way to a hall of game career right now.
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But you make picking a good franchise QB in the draft sound as though it were just as random and hard as winning the lottery.

Marino did finish 4th in Heisman voting in 1981. Also, Football (both college and pro) circa early 1980's isn't the same as Football circa early 2010's. The rules have changed to make putting up more points as well as playing the QB position much easier. College numbers aren't everything, but they are one important factor among many others.
 
Joba-nator said:
Okay, since College numbers matter so much, would you rather have Jason White or Tom Brady as your current NFL starting QB?


College numbers do not give us a great deal of information in the projection of future NFL success, plain and simple. To use Tannehill's college numbers to project future success does nobody any good because there are enough examples of great college QBs who were duds in the pros and vise versa.
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Do we even know what that correlation is?
 
Well there is a plus here.

If Tannehill comes out next year and continues to be the same, with the schedule we have, coaching we have Miami won't win very many games.

Look for a new qb, new FO and coaching staff have a top pick and try your hardest to get Winston or one if the other top prospects.
 
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