Mel Kiper's Dolphins 2nd Round Pick.

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  1. oteroed

    oteroed Active Member

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    He's saying we pick WR, Gonzalez, from Ohio State.
    Good reciever, third down option, I like the pick.

    Okoye is our first pick according to Kiper.
     
  2. Trowa

    Trowa Seasoned Veteran

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    Okoye is a bad pick at #9. Odds are he wont be the bpa and we already have Holliday, Traylor, Wright x2, Fifita, Evans and Vickerson at DT. We really don't need another one right now.
     
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    I don't like the pick. Better value in the secondary at #40 or linebacker.
     
  4. Motion

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    I'm not to excited about either pick.
     
  5. Finfan53

    Finfan53 17-0 Still Perfect

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    I don't like it
     
  7. FEARDAFINS

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    I think we need a lot of offensive help, and many scout believe Gonzalez is the best "route runner" of the draft.
     
  8. The Confessor

    The Confessor Doesnt play well with others

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    Alot of good that does us if
    A: We dont have a QB to get him the rock and
    2: If Daunte does come back, he doesnt have a line to give him any time to get him the rock

    If we dont get Quinn in the first (Via Trade or virtue) I could live with Okoye-
     
  9. SCall13

    SCall13 Finheaven QB

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    I never get hyped up over who Mel Kiper projects as our picks. His hit/miss ratio is no better than the average fans. Draft predictions/projections are impossible. What happens in the days prior to the draft and on draft day is impossible to predict and any little thing can throw an entire projected draft out of wack. Noone can be very accurate over one round, much less 2,3,4...


    After all that: No way we pick Gonzales at #40. No way.
     
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    PHINBRED Well-Known Member

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    o-line at this pick
     
  11. Finsfan79

    Finsfan79 Well-Known Member

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    Okoye would be a best player available pick for the first round I feel. He is a high upside player with alot of potential. Reminds me alot of a young tim bowens. No our needs do not match with that. But, it is very hard to argue about the kid's potential at all. He would be a great 3-4 DE and if he adds 20 lbs he could be a NT for our defense to remember for a good while. of course that depends if he could, would, put on the weight for us. He is also an upstanding character player.


    I would prefer a trade back, taking Joe Staley for a LT, and adding Kalil/Grubbs/sears in the 2nd with Edwards. Getting another pick to use for another piece and in the 3rd taking a BPA
     
  12. The Confessor

    The Confessor Doesnt play well with others

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    Does anybody else think that Kiper is waiting till the week before or the week leading into the draft to unveil what he really thinks. He just seems to juggle these around for a couple of months, no real rhyme or reason
     
  13. newlownorder

    newlownorder Hoof Hearted

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    Was this on TV? I'm asking because his mock from espn.com has us taking levi brown.
     
  14. Dolphins=LIFE

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    re:

    I've begun to think that. Everyone keeps bouncing around so much, that when draft day comes, he can point out that at one point, he did have that player going to the place he goes to. I don't buy all this hype for Gaines Adams at #2. I don't buy that the Raiders won't take JaMarcus Russell. I don't think Adrian Peterson will drop to #7 for Minnesota. But, if it happens, he can say "I picked that....one time"
     
  15. dolfan2334

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    the video is different from the collumn on the espn site. idk why it confused me too
     
  16. Kyndig

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    How about an offensive tackle before any of those?
     
  17. maverick50

    maverick50 the top gun of all fin fans

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    damn it ya we need a wr with talent ;henceforth we can always patch the oline together . look all we need to do is get a ot in rd 1 then get a stud wr in rd2 a gonzales will do nicely. and then get lyle sendlein ot with 2b and then get ot corry hilliard in rd4 then get a olb in 6a and a cb in rd6b and a dt in rd7

    then next year we can get qb, te, rb, and de .
    or if it was me i would trade out of the first rd and get a extra 2 nd and 4th and a 2nd rd pick next year and draft the following.
    rd2 a center ryan kalil
    rd2 b ot lyle sendlein
    rd2 c ot doug datish
    rd2 d wr craig davis
    rd3 dt ryan mcbean
    rd4 a lb qunincy black
    rd4 b wr d'juan woods
    rd 6 a rb justin vincent
    rd6 b cb nick graham
    rd 7 de brian robinson

    i know , i know bad idea , i know some guys may be gone but noboddy really knows anything anyways.
     
  18. taylormvp99

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    Good thing Kiper is usually wrong. I trust Mayock over him anyway.
     
  19. MrEd

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    Hate that mock. For all that we draft Tedd Ginn Jr at #9 and an OL at #40. We don't need Okoye this year. We can draft one next year. We have Evans and Manny to prove they aren't any good first. They will and should be given the chance to play some behind Traylor this year. If they show promise, then we wont even have to draft a NT next year either. But if they both stink(which I doubt they "both" stink)...then we draft a NT "next" year.

    That draft is dumb. If Mel thinks we will leave OL for the 2nd and beyond, then we might as well draft Tedd Ginn Jr at #9.

    But maybe Levi Brown may be a better pick than Okoye as well. Point is, we don't need to waste a 1st round pick on no Okoye. Especially not this year.
     
  20. СЯΘΜ

    СЯΘΜ Ka tū te wanawana.

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    I really enjoy Kiper on draft day but prior to draft I can't stand him or his mocks. I'm greatful that he doesn't distribute the draft pool to NFL teams.
     
  21. Jaj

    Jaj What you say?

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    Don't read much into Kiper's projections it's his player evaluations that matter. He's on the ball most of the time.
     
  22. LarryFinFan

    LarryFinFan Left So Fla, never the Fins...

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    The thing of it is, for Kiper and other draftniks, you have to assume inside the top 10 that teams take BPA, not need. If it happens to match a need, great. But I don't see how we could be disappointed with Akoye. He's a guy that can shore up the Holliday side of the line for years to come or possibly play inside.

    Most of us wish the Fins can get a top 10 talent and still fill a specific need. I see the BPA being a DE, DT or even WR at #9...It's a tough decision to make but it can only be messed up if they reach for someone via need and take a player out of slot...
     
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    Isn't Kiper forgetting the OTHER 2nd round pick?
     
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    Traylor is on his last legs, the Wrights, Fifita Evans and Vickerson are just development type guys at this point. We definitely need an injection of youth and talent at the DT position. Okoye might be the answer.
     
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    phinphanforever Banned forever.... Hammered

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    I agree that Kiper is better than some but he has made some very bad predictions in the past. Case in point, Mike Williams.
     
  26. Jaj

    Jaj What you say?

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    Everybody slips at one point or another. Usually he is pretty good about this stuff, just not when it comes to projecting team need to pick.
     
  27. RUDEbyallMEANS

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    I don't believe Quinn will fall to Miami. I'm on the assumption that Miami will select Joe Staley at #9, which in turn would leave the secondary as a good value at #40.
     
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    yeah, and check out the interviews today from practice on the Miami official site, Manny Wright could be a beast this year for us. I see Freddy Evans and Manny doin just fine in the middle. I think you could make a case for DE moreseo than DT no matter how old some of our guys our. Our "old" guys have been holding up pretty damn well. Knock on wood.
     
  29. PhinGeneral

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    A lot of people think he could go to Washington at #6, so your bpa comment holds little water.

    Okoye has exceptional upside that some other players picked in our area probably don't have. If the front office think he can be a great player, they probably won't pass on him if he's there unless Quinn is somehow still around.

    I know, we already have yadda yadda yadda. Let's take a closer look. Holliday is no spring chicken. Traylor is done after this year. Vickerson was not even tendered and is playing in NFLE, so they're not exactly doing backflips over his potential. Fafita is nothing special. The Wrights? They have potential. They also have a lot to prove.

    Don't undersell the need for defensive linemen. It may not be our most pressing need, but dominating up front will win you a lot of ball games. And in today's NFL, where defensive linemen are constantly rotated in, you need as many good ones as you can get.
     
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    Manny Wright could. But to assume that based on his history is illogical.
     
  31. Majpain

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    Gonzo is going to be a great WR.
     

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