MERGED: The Official 2007 New York Yankees Thread!

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  1. MikeO

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    Its Feb 1st, time to shift to baseball.

    Could be an interesting month. We could see Bernie retire and then see Roger announce his return at some point this season.
     
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    Let's get it on!
     
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    Go Yankees!!!!
     
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    Looks like Bernie was only offered a minor league contract. I dont think he will take it. I think he will explore his options then retire or sign somewhere else
     
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    :woot: Go Yanks!
     
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    Bernie Williams is leaning toward accepting the Yankees' offer of a minor-league contract, two people familiar with the situation told Newsday yesterday. The 38-year-old, ultra-popular outfielder is aware that he'll be a long shot to make the 2007 Yankees, the sources said. But after spending all 16 of his big-league seasons as a Yankee, he has no desire to play for another team, and Williams figures that if he doesn't make the cut, he'll retire in Yankees pinstripes. Should Williams move forward and agree to the non-guaranteed deal, he would give Yankees fans a likely final chance to thank him, albeit in exhibition games, for his outstanding career. But he also would make himself one of the focal points of the media, from the first workout until the close of camp. Williams has made it clear in recent interviews that he's not ready to retire. Yet both his strong family ties - he makes his full-time home in Westchester - and his appreciation of his place in Yankees history have made him reluctant to join another team.
     
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    [admin] If your sole purpose in posting is to annoy people, post in The Depths and not here [/admin]
     
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    OK, now that I took care of the "DOB" for the rest of the 2007 season in this thread , let's get back to baseball.............

    Looks like Bernie is going to take the Yankees minor league offer, show up for spring training and put the pressure on the Yanks to cut him!!!!
     
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    I don't know why the Yankees just don't keep him on the bench with Melky, Phillips, and Cairo. Cairo and Phillips can play just about any infield position so it's not as if they need another infielder. Bernie should just suck it up, be the 5th outfielder, have 100 at bats, and make this his victory lap. Everyone knows it will never work out for him if he goes to another team. See Patrick Ewing!
     
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    The Yanks should have never signed Manlkadjslkvitch to play 1B. That roster spot could have been given to Bernie, Giambi could have played more games at 1B and let Bernie DH more and all of this could have been avoided.
     
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    I agree I think that was a wasted signing by the Yankees but since they seem to be in love with D.M.'s defense, I think that is why they made the signing. Bernie should just suck it up and either retire and take a job with the Yankees or accept the job of being the 5th outfielder. Someone is going to go down this year whether for a long period of time of a short stint on the DL so the more we have in the outfield, the better off we'll be. Bernie is another uniform is blasphamis!
     
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    Bernie has already stated, if he does not make the team, he will retire. He does not want to play for any other team.
     
  13. Motion

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    SCREW THE YANKEES!!!!!!

    GO BLUE JAYS!!!!!!!!!!

    It's time to knock the "we try to buy the world series every year" team from the top.

    As you can tell I hate the Yankees cause all they do is win with there high payroll, like they should. I wish you guys were in a different division.

    Jays are always screwed with the bosox and yanks.
     
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    Tell your owner to stop being a cheap *** Canadian.
     
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    GreenMonster Never con a con man

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    What it really comes down to is during the playoffs would you rather have Bernie of the bench as a bat or Doug M. playing 1st as a defensive replacement. I guess I would take Bernie too, his power is gone, as our the days of +.400 OBP but he still hit .281 last year.. Johnny Damon will be hurt before you know it.
     
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    So Matsui would move to CF and Melky would play Left.
     
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    Glad Bernie is thinking of signing a minor league contract!
     
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    So you are saying 25+ out of 32 teams are being cheap *****.
    I doubt it. The new Jays owner has invested a huge amount of money into the team. He lost 25 million last year and has invested more into this team this year.

    Besides don't be jealous, that you can't have Halladay, the best pitcher in the majors.
     
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    Go Brooklyn.
     
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    Came across some interesting reading material for Mets and Yanks fans: Fernando Martinez vs Jose Tabata - http://www.minorleagueball.com/

    The article will give some insight as to how each player projects at the MLB level, strengths and weaknesses etc.

    Not rubbing anything in even though im obviously a huge mets fan. Just intended for information purposes so ya'll can read up on Tabata.
     
  25. Motion

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    If Beckham had received $3 million more, his deal would have surpassed Alex Rodriguez's — and Melvin, who signed A-Rod for the Rangers, no longer would be the G.M. who awarded the biggest contract in the history of American sports.

    Of course, Beckham's $250 million isn't quite $250 million — it's an estimated total of what he will earn in salary and endorsements. And of course, Rangers owner Tom Hicks — not Melvin — was the driving force behind Rodriguez's record contract.


    In any case, Melvin need not worry.


    While Rodriguez's deal stands as a landmark, he is unlikely to realize its full value with the Yankees. His contract gives him the right to become a free agent after the 2007 season. And A-Rod figures to opt out faster than you can say, "J.D. Drew."


    Oh, Rodriguez will never admit as much publicly, and he's due $27 million per season in '08, '09 and '10. But his agent, Scott Boras, generally prefers his clients' values to be determined — or, in this case, recalibrated — on the open market.


    The strategy worked with Drew, who forfeited a three-year, $33 million guarantee with the Dodgers to negotiate a five-year, $70 million deal with the Red Sox. It could work even better with Rodriguez, who had 35 homers and 121 RBIs last season even though his critics portrayed him as another Angel Berroa.


    If Rodriguez has a big '07, he could take advantage of a robust market at 32 rather than wait to become a free agent at 35. He might not get $27 million per year, but as a candidate for 800 home runs — he's 36 shy of 500 — he could land a higher guarantee in a longer deal.


    The money probably would not be as lucrative if Rodriguez had a poor or mediocre regular season, or another poor postseason. But his incentive to leave New York at that point would be that much greater, and the Yankees probably would want him out.


    Either way, Rodriguez will have options — lots of options.



    OBVIOUS FITS

    Yankees: People forget, they've got a sweetheart deal on Rodriguez, paying him $16 million per season with the Rangers assuming the rest. They surely would be willing to renegotiate if, say, A-Rod won his second MVP in three years and led the team to its first World Series title since 2000. But short of that, they likely would weigh alternatives.


    For all their resources, the Yankees have not awarded a free-agent contract of longer than four years since signing Jason Giambi for $120 million for seven years after the 2001 season. (Japanese left-hander Kei Igawa, who recently signed a five-year deal, arrived through the posting process).
    Rodriguez could prove the exception; it would be difficult for the Yankees to replace him at third and find a comparable right-handed hitter.


    On the other hand, the departure of A-Rod would increase the Yankees' flexibility, enabling them to pursue younger free agents such as Cubs right-hander Carlos Zambrano and Braves center fielder Andruw Jones.

    Giants: Sign Rodriguez, and their concerns about replacing Barry Bonds would be solved. Rodriguez would boost attendance with his pursuit of the all-time, home-run mark. And to think, no one would be trying to indict him!


    For all the criticisms of Rodriguez, he's the anti-Bonds, from his squeaky-clean image to his too-eager-to-please personality. He might not enjoy hitting at AT&T Park, but the park has played more neutral in recent seasons and generally is tougher on left-handed batters.


    The Giants' current third baseman, Pedro Feliz, owns a .288 career on-base percentage.


    Rodriguez's is .386.

    Angels: Arte Moreno, come on down.
    Sorry, Gary Matthews Jr. isn't what the Angels' owner had in mind when he promised to acquire a big hitter this off-season. The Angels should win the AL West by default, but who would you rather have at third in '08, A-Rod or Chone Figgins?


    By signing with the Angels, A-Rod could stay in the American League and remain highly visible in a major media market. He also would play at least two seasons with Vladimir Guerrero, giving the Angels a west-coast counter to the Red Sox's Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz.

    Marlins: Obviously, the idea would be feasible only if they got a new ballpark, and even then it might be a stretch. But imagine if the Marlins brought Rodriguez home to Miami as their marketing centerpiece. The city could become a hot baseball market instead of a dormant one.


    The Marlins would need to lock up Miguel Cabrera along with Rodriguez; they could play A-Rod at third and Cabrera at first or A-Rod at short and Hanley Ramirez in center. The team then could trade left-hander Dontrelle Willis for a bounty of young talent and become a genuine power in the NL East.



    LOGICAL POSSIBILITIES

    Red Sox: Difficult to picture them giving A-Rod monster dollars when they control Ramirez through '10 and Ortiz and Drew through '11. Then again, club president Larry Lucchino covets big names, and surely would relish the idea of luring Rodriguez from Evil Empire I to Evil Empire II.


    The Sox, remember, nearly traded Ramirez for Rodriguez in '03; if they somehow could part with Ramirez, they could better afford Rodriguez. More likely, they would acquire a first baseman and move Kevin Youkilis to third to replace Mike Lowell, who is a free agent after this season — the top free agent at third, actually, if Rodriguez stays with the Yankees.

    Phillies: Some obstacles here: G.M. Pat Gillick, who held the same position with the Mariners when A-Rod left for the Rangers, was flabbergasted by Boras' handling of those negotiations. What's more, Rodriguez's personality would be a serious question in impatient, rough-and-tumble Philadelphia.
    Then again, the Phillies' No. 1 need is a right-handed hitter to stick behind Ryan Howard, and Wes Helms is not a long-term answer at third. While Howard eventually will warrant a huge contract, left fielder Pat Burrell is signed only through '08.


    A-Rod could be a perennial 60-homer man at hitter-friendly Citizens Bank Park.

    Tigers: Not a natural fit, but an intriguing one. Shortstop Carlos Guillen is a free agent at the end of the season. Why not replace him with Rodriguez, a player who is only two months older and has better knees?


    Well, Rodriguez might no longer be an option at short — he hasn't played the position regularly since 2003 — and he couldn't play third for the Tigers, who just signed Brandon Inge to a four-year, $24 million contract.


    Tigers owner Mike Ilitch, however, is a regular Boras customer, and Jim Leyland might be the perfect manager for Rodriguez, alternately stroking him and prodding him.



    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6443836
     
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    (posted in 2006 thread too)

    Scranton new home for AAA Yanks (no more Columbus)

    21 invited to Spring Training:

    http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070115&content_id=152219&vkey=news_t531&fext=.jsp&sid=t531

     
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    (posted in 2006 thread too)

    Yanks' farm system becoming hard to ignore
    Hughes, Clippard lead a pack of talented pitching prospects

    http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061107&content_id=142758&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp


     
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    Hughes ready to state case
    Top prospect hoping to earn a spot on Major League roster

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070209&content_id=1798561&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

     
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    Hughes is going to have a golden chance to be the #5 starter. The Yanks want him in Scranton to start the season, but are willing to have him be the #5 starter if he has a good spring training. Not to mention they won't overwork him this year as IF the Yanks sign Roger, then they can limit Hughes late in the year when Roger arrives and not overwork him and throw out his arm in his first full season in the big leagues.

    If Hughes is the #5 starter, Pavano is gone!!!!!!!!
     
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    Bernie turned down the minor league offer.

    I see him retiring by April. I could see a huge Bernie Williams day at Yankee Stadium come August or September
     
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    arod is still my favorite player i really hope he does great his next year during the season and postseason
     
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    The yankees should just concede 3rd place this year.
     
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    Mussiana calling out Pavano in the press. I LOVE IT!!!

    Team showing a little fire and heart early on. Not being a bunch of quiet alter boys just going through the motions!!!!
     
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    :yes: Good stuff
     
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    go yanks.......this year we gotta win it....im pumped/....met jeter about 2 months ago at a club on south beach and got his autograph on my business card...it was sweet.....
     
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    K-Rod in NY???????????????


    Closer Francisco Rodriguez did hint at the possibility of pitching elsewhere if the Angels don't secure him to a multiyear contract before he becomes a free agent after 2008. "Sooner or later I know I will have that contract, either with the Angels or another team," Rodriguez said before the team's first workout for pitchers and catchers. "Every player wants that security for their family, career and life, but I understand this is a business, and I can't control it." Talks with Paul Kinzer, Rodriguez's agent, failed to net a long-term deal last winter, and the sides haven't agreed on a multiyear contract this winter. Arbitration was avoided when Rodriguez signed a one-year, $7-million deal in January, "but we haven't discussed a multiyear contract at all since then," Kinzer said. "We're hoping to." ... With Mariano Rivera nearing retirement in New York, the Yankees are believed to be eyeing Rodriguez as a possible replacement.
     
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    Mike Mussina and Torre spoke on Mike and the Mad Dog today. Mussina is as honest as they come, his interview is a can't miss!

    www.wfan.com
     
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    also sounds like as long as Bernie shows up at camp......he's on the team.

    Ball is in Bernie's court. He might not play a whole hell of a lot but he will be on this team.
     
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    That's the way it should be. I mean Phelps and Phillips on the roster over Bernie? You have to be kidding me!
     
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    Well I would get rid of Mankl;lakdjsflksaj;owalitch. The guy can't hit and his glove while better than Phillips isn't so much greater that he deserved a roster spot.

    I love how Cashman has built this team, I hate the Manklasdjflaksdoitch signing
     
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    You know why he was brought in right? To be A-Rod's buddy, nothing more nothing less. They went to high school together and played on the football team and baseball team together. While there not best friends or anything he's a familiar face to A-Rod and they've always been friendly, that is why he is on the team IMO!
     
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    But if he isn't hitting or hit like he did when he was with the Mets.........he ain't gonna last long.
     
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    That is reserved for the defending 3rd place team.
     
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    We have enouigh offense, he wasn't brought in to hit. he was brought in for his glove and as long as he is doing it in the field he'll have a place and in a lineup like this where he has no pressure I bet he does ok at the plate.
     
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    He doesn't like the NY media, SHOCKING. I bet the media didn't like him when he was shoving cameras around on his first day in the city.

    Whatever, he lost his brother not long ago in a very sad way. I'm not gonna bash the guy. If he wants to vent let him vent
     
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    Bernie a no-show at Yanks camp, agent says he may be done

    Bernie Williams wants a guarantee, not a maybe, so it appears he won't be with the New York Yankees when position players start workouts Tuesday.

    Manager Joe Torre planned to call Williams again. But catcher Jorge Posada thinks Williams can't be persuaded to accept a minor league contract.

    After 21 years in the Yankees organization, including 16 with the major league team, Williams feels burned and doesn't think he should have to earn a job. His agent, Scott Boras, said Saturday that Williams hasn't shown any desire to do that or to play for another team.

    "I think he's hurt. I don't think there's any question," Torre said. "He's a very proud individual. I know there are a lot of players in this clubhouse who certainly feel for Bernie. But, again, unfortunately, it's the nature of the game a lot of times."

    http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10006099
     
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    This team is starting to look like the old time Yankees, everyone bickering and not getting along.
     
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    I love Bernie but he is acting like a little punk right now. I mean not returning Joe Torre's phone calls, that's shallow. I thought Bernie had more class then this. I understand he's upset (and rightfully so) but to not return the guy who has been in your corner every step of the way......Ridiculous!
     

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