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  1. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Well-Known Member

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  2. DuderinoN703

    DuderinoN703 We? What the **** we? Finheaven VIP Donator

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    Kiko is the ****ing MAN.
     
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    Gsmack_42 Well-Known Member

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    I’m sheer I’ve read that he sucks,and is the most over paid player on the team.
     
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    Are you sheer you're sheer?
     
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    kcbrown Life is what we make it. Donator

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    Nice work by Kiko "Interview Me Nunca" Alonso
     
  6. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Well-Known Member

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    I'm so hesitant to correct grammar on here, lest they find out that mi espanol es muy malo...
     
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    He's a dummy, but he can ball.
     
  8. TheWozz

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    He had a very good game...was attacking the LoS. I really wanted to see how he plays with competent LBs around him. Hopefully this game is indicative...
     
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    I just like to be funny with it, sounds like that one was an autocorrect based on what someone's into. ;)
     
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  10. hoops

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    Underrated aspect of his game.

    He always leads with the correct shoulder.
     
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    NY8123 Sophisticated Redneck Administrator Finheaven VIP

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    I never understood the lack of love for Kiko. He was and is clearly better than most of the options we've had in the past several years.

    One thing overlooked in all of this the effect Timmons playing had on the defense. They looked like a different defense with him lined up.

    And one more thing can we please give Jones credit for being a super-star. He's just been playing lights out ball also.
     
  12. spiketex

    spiketex Kiko, El Bravo 47 - the yappy chihuahua Super Donator Donator

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    The other great thing about Kiko is that he's a big confidence player who uses his instincts. When his confidence is up it takes his game to a higher level. I understand that some FH posters don't like him because he doesn't play like a lot of other linebackers. However, he now has some really physical players in front (Suh, Godchaux, Hayes) and beside him (Timmons, Maualuga). I was also interested to read that Gase rates Kiko very highly because of the thorough analysis and preparation he puts into his game. He said he puts more time into analyzing his opponents than anyone he's seen outside of the QBs.
    Great to see Kiko playing well.
     
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    I can't tell you how many lbs either lead with no shoulder or lead with the wrong one.

    It is an absolute skill. More than just this is my gap stuff too it's taking pre to post snap and making in game play real time adjustments to always end up leading with the correct shoulder.
     
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    Buddy Right Wing Nut Job Moderator Finheaven VIP

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    Please be careful with personal attacks, let's keep it civil.
     
  15. Wildbill3

    Wildbill3 Misery Loves Company Administrator Finheaven VIP Donator

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    If I had to focus on a player on defense to complain about over the last season and 4 games, it wouldn't have been kiko.
     
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    Wildbill3 Misery Loves Company Administrator Finheaven VIP Donator

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    I don't think he meant anything by it, as it is, i'm seeing a lot of stuff in this post we could both laugh about.
     
  17. Michael Scott

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    Hopefully he can keep it up, but this is pretty much what he did all last season.....solid game, crap game, solid game, crap game with some streaks thrown in.

    He was absolutely awful games 1-3. I thought against the Titans he put forth his best overall game as a Dolphin.
     
  18. DuderinoN703

    DuderinoN703 We? What the **** we? Finheaven VIP Donator

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    People and their opinions. You know the game that's played.
     
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    His hit and forced fumble on Matt Cassell changed the entire game for Miami. Without that play, it's likely a loss.

    Defensive players who can make game changing plays are very valuable in an NFL so heavily tilted toward offense (except maybe in Miami).
     
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    What defines a specific shoulder as the "right" shoulder?
     
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    Unfortunately that same site graded him a 54.7 heading into the Titans game ... and 51.6 last season, good for 49th among linebackers.
     
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    I was shocked after signing back up last year to hear Kiko was such an issue on finheaven. He's not perfect but maybe help was needed. Donald Butler and Spencer Paysinger aren't exactly Lawrence Timmons. Yes Jones is a total Super-Star!! Timmons is a beast. He brings a whole new physicality to the lbing corp that we haven't seen in awhile. Very good signing IMO. 2 yr 11 mil isn't much in today's NFL for a good veteran Lber who still has it. The Steelers were wrong for thinking old age has caught up. Alonso and Timmons make the best pair of Lbers we've had since idk when. Gotta give credit when it's due just as much as some hate on him. For as sad as our Offense has been playing, our Lbers and Dline has been awesome especially against the run. Unfortunately, we play ATL this week so we probably won't be able to harass the QB all day like terrible Cassel. Gase better swallow his pride if Cutler has another day like the past 3 games. What happened after week 1? Fooled me that's for sure.
     
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    Ya it's almost certainly a loss. The guy played fantastic. Now he needs to focus on what he did right and leave the bad habits in the past. Yes, game changing plays are what differentiate the greats from really good. (not saying Kiko is great lol)
     
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    Give me 11 players with Kiko's heart, I give you a championship defense.
     
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    So.... he can’t have a good game? Or what? Be happy he did. Jesus
     
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    nick1 I am Groot Moderator Finheaven VIP Donator

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    Lots of excused absences from camp may have hurt the start of the year.
     
  28. Digital

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    All last season and early this season I kept saying ... let's see how Kiko does when he is surrounded by competent LB mates. Let's see how he does when the veteran's are healthy and he doesn't have to do it all; when he can concentrate on his role and assignment. Well, we're starting to see that ... and the kid is playing quite well. This is the type of play we wanted when we coveted him his rookie year in Buffalo. This is the type of play we wanted when he came over from Philadelphia. The sacks and tackles are nice ... but forcing fumbles ... that's what makes me happy. Keep on generating takeaways Kiko ... it's what our defense desperately needs. Kiko does it, Wake does it ... now if only we could find some other players to chip in a little bit.
     
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    PFF is as accurate as the matrix Jeff Ireland used to grade his draft picks.
     
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    Just needs the reps at LT, he spent his rookie year at LG which slowed his development.
     
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    I agree with the defensive assessments but the our middle 3 olinman are horrible
     
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    72champagne the annual ritual

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    i gave up a lot of pressures out the back end watching them play this year. i grade it about a 5.8 on the richter scale, altogether.
     
  33. BenchFiedler

    BenchFiedler Undrafted Pro-Bowler

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    Tell that to your fellow Dolfans who are overreacting every time if not most of the time.
    This is getting ridiculous
     
  34. royalshank

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    Say what you will but Kiko made two game winning plays last year.

    1. Pick 6 vs Chargers - we were going to lose that game. SD was moving and on the cusp of FG range. Huge play.

    2. De-Kap-itating Kapernick on that last play at the goal line w Suh slowing him up from behind.

    We lose those two games we are 8-8 no playoffs etc. He makes plays.
     
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    Until it says something about a player that you agree with
     
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