ckparrothead
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First off, I wrote another article about 5 Pro Day performances I'm looking forward to...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1090940-nfl-draft-2012-five-pro-days-were-looking-forward-to
Second, I would like to, if we can, have this thread be one where we discuss Pro Day developments.
For instance, the best offensive lineman I saw at Shrine practice, Brandon Brooks of Miami of Ohio had a WHALE of a Pro Day showing. He should have been invited to the NFL Scouting Combine. He was not. This is a guy that I saw measure up at Shrine practice every bit of 6'5" and 346 lbs, and yet you LOOK at him with pads on and this is not at all a fat player. He carries the weight like Dontari Poe does. I watched him in practice and he was QUICK and AGILE with all that weight, and he looked powerful, too. I wasn't familiar with the guy at all but I was shocked there would be such a diamond in the rough out there. On several practice reps he would actually neutralize two defenders at once at the second level in the briar patch, one with each hand, very powerful punching. At his pro day he ran a 5.00 and 4.98 in the 40 yard dash which is outstanding. He ran a 4.58 in the short shuttle which is again outstanding at nearly 350 lbs. He did a 7.42 three-cone drill, again superb. He did 36 bench reps at 225 lbs, again superb. His 32 inch vertical and 8'9" broad jump at that size...just all the way around there isn't a single result that is not mind boggling.
On the other hand, Orson Charles had his Pro Day today at UGA. I don't know what his other measures were, but I hear he ran a 4.75 and a 4.90 in the 40 yard dash...and that just stinks. He chose not to run in Indianapolis, yet it wasn't an injury issue as he participated in all the field drills. That puts pressure on you to run well at your Pro Day. There were winds of 20 to 30 miles per hour at the Pro Day, so many are excusing it. However, to me the wind would be the reason for the discrepancy between a 4.75 (with the wind) and a 4.90 (against the wind). Either way, this is a disastrous showing for a man that on film looked TINY and had speed as his greatest and only weapon. My guess is he bulked up big time to get up to the 251 lbs he showed at the Combine, with all that strength that let him lift the bar 35 times, but that bulk made him slow. Even so, the bulk only made him 6'2" and 250 lbs which is still small for the position. No amount of bench press prowess is going to give you ballast and strength to be an effective blocker at that position when you're a small guy. This is why Bill Walsh always explained that with offensive linemen, he's not looking for bench numbers, he's looking for what he referred to as bone girth. The bench just shows if you've been diligent about your weight room training.
I hear D.J. Woods the receiver at Cincinnati had a good pro day.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1090940-nfl-draft-2012-five-pro-days-were-looking-forward-to
Second, I would like to, if we can, have this thread be one where we discuss Pro Day developments.
For instance, the best offensive lineman I saw at Shrine practice, Brandon Brooks of Miami of Ohio had a WHALE of a Pro Day showing. He should have been invited to the NFL Scouting Combine. He was not. This is a guy that I saw measure up at Shrine practice every bit of 6'5" and 346 lbs, and yet you LOOK at him with pads on and this is not at all a fat player. He carries the weight like Dontari Poe does. I watched him in practice and he was QUICK and AGILE with all that weight, and he looked powerful, too. I wasn't familiar with the guy at all but I was shocked there would be such a diamond in the rough out there. On several practice reps he would actually neutralize two defenders at once at the second level in the briar patch, one with each hand, very powerful punching. At his pro day he ran a 5.00 and 4.98 in the 40 yard dash which is outstanding. He ran a 4.58 in the short shuttle which is again outstanding at nearly 350 lbs. He did a 7.42 three-cone drill, again superb. He did 36 bench reps at 225 lbs, again superb. His 32 inch vertical and 8'9" broad jump at that size...just all the way around there isn't a single result that is not mind boggling.
On the other hand, Orson Charles had his Pro Day today at UGA. I don't know what his other measures were, but I hear he ran a 4.75 and a 4.90 in the 40 yard dash...and that just stinks. He chose not to run in Indianapolis, yet it wasn't an injury issue as he participated in all the field drills. That puts pressure on you to run well at your Pro Day. There were winds of 20 to 30 miles per hour at the Pro Day, so many are excusing it. However, to me the wind would be the reason for the discrepancy between a 4.75 (with the wind) and a 4.90 (against the wind). Either way, this is a disastrous showing for a man that on film looked TINY and had speed as his greatest and only weapon. My guess is he bulked up big time to get up to the 251 lbs he showed at the Combine, with all that strength that let him lift the bar 35 times, but that bulk made him slow. Even so, the bulk only made him 6'2" and 250 lbs which is still small for the position. No amount of bench press prowess is going to give you ballast and strength to be an effective blocker at that position when you're a small guy. This is why Bill Walsh always explained that with offensive linemen, he's not looking for bench numbers, he's looking for what he referred to as bone girth. The bench just shows if you've been diligent about your weight room training.
I hear D.J. Woods the receiver at Cincinnati had a good pro day.
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