The New Guy
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Since people are getting tired of this, this is going to be my last response. If you want a start a new thread "Mark played the same role in his playoff wins as Eli did in his", I would be glad to continue.
I don't care where the rushing yards came from. They take pressure off of the QB. That average running game averaged 161 yards in the Jets regular season wins.
The same D that allowed an average of 17 points per game in the Jets 11 wins that you give Mark all the credit for.
He played a role, but not as big a role as Eli did in his comeback wins.
Having many more attempts proves my point that Eli played a bigger role in his team's wins. They are both QBs and I am comparing what they did in those games. That is apples to apples. You don't want to compare apples to apples. You want to take a sour apple and say I have to add sugar before I compare it to the sweeter apple. :crazy:
I agree that both QBs played well, but one QB played a much larger role in his team's wins than the other.
This whole thing is over what each QB did in his team's wins. What does Mark having better numbers in losses really say?
What kind of O is devastated by a 9 min drive only down 7 in the first quarter? If they were so devastated by that drive, why was the Jets first drive on O the best of the 4 that they had in the first half. The Jets stopped Pitt on 4th and 1 on Pitt's second drive when they were in FG range. Wouldn't that pump an O up? How did the Jets O respond? They went 3 and out.
The Jets struggles on O had little to do with the Steelers first drive on O, and had everything to do with how the Pitt D was playing.
Yet, you say Mark could do everything that Eli did in his Super Bowl runs?
Yes, it shows what role the QB played in keeping those scoring drives alive. Mark completed a 2 yard pass on 3rd down for a TD. That is great but what did he do to get there? In all the Jets scores against the Chargers, Mark contributed 13 passing yards. The QB doesn't deserve the same amount of credit for his team scoring point when he contributes 13 passing yards to his teams scores.
In all of the Jets playoff scores in their wins (4), Mark contributed 381 yards 5 TDs, and (10) 3rd down conversions
In all of the Giants playoffs scores in just 2011 (4), Eli contributed 763 yards, 9 TDs and (16) 3rd down conversions.
Yet, you give the same amount of credit to each QB for their wins and say numbers don't matter. It is ridiculous!
The point is Tebow winning games when he contributed little. Just like Mark contributing 13 passing yards on all of the Jets scoring drives against SD. He doesn't get the same credit as Eli even though they both won games.
Both QBs had two playoff apps. Mark contributed 981 less yards, 12 less TDs and (21) less 3rd down conversions that kept scoring drives alive. That is not playing the same role.
You reject reality and substitute your own. :up:
So Mark has attempted 35 passes in a playoff game, and Eli only average 25 passing attempts in his playoff wins? :idk:
I don't care where the rushing yards came from. They take pressure off of the QB. That average running game averaged 161 yards in the Jets regular season wins.
The same D that allowed an average of 17 points per game in the Jets 11 wins that you give Mark all the credit for.
He played a role, but not as big a role as Eli did in his comeback wins.
Having many more attempts proves my point that Eli played a bigger role in his team's wins. They are both QBs and I am comparing what they did in those games. That is apples to apples. You don't want to compare apples to apples. You want to take a sour apple and say I have to add sugar before I compare it to the sweeter apple. :crazy:
I agree that both QBs played well, but one QB played a much larger role in his team's wins than the other.
This whole thing is over what each QB did in his team's wins. What does Mark having better numbers in losses really say?
What kind of O is devastated by a 9 min drive only down 7 in the first quarter? If they were so devastated by that drive, why was the Jets first drive on O the best of the 4 that they had in the first half. The Jets stopped Pitt on 4th and 1 on Pitt's second drive when they were in FG range. Wouldn't that pump an O up? How did the Jets O respond? They went 3 and out.
The Jets struggles on O had little to do with the Steelers first drive on O, and had everything to do with how the Pitt D was playing.
Yet, you say Mark could do everything that Eli did in his Super Bowl runs?
Yes, it shows what role the QB played in keeping those scoring drives alive. Mark completed a 2 yard pass on 3rd down for a TD. That is great but what did he do to get there? In all the Jets scores against the Chargers, Mark contributed 13 passing yards. The QB doesn't deserve the same amount of credit for his team scoring point when he contributes 13 passing yards to his teams scores.
In all of the Jets playoff scores in their wins (4), Mark contributed 381 yards 5 TDs, and (10) 3rd down conversions
In all of the Giants playoffs scores in just 2011 (4), Eli contributed 763 yards, 9 TDs and (16) 3rd down conversions.
Yet, you give the same amount of credit to each QB for their wins and say numbers don't matter. It is ridiculous!
The point is Tebow winning games when he contributed little. Just like Mark contributing 13 passing yards on all of the Jets scoring drives against SD. He doesn't get the same credit as Eli even though they both won games.
Both QBs had two playoff apps. Mark contributed 981 less yards, 12 less TDs and (21) less 3rd down conversions that kept scoring drives alive. That is not playing the same role.
You reject reality and substitute your own. :up:So Mark has attempted 35 passes in a playoff game, and Eli only average 25 passing attempts in his playoff wins? :idk:
