Slimm's 2018 Wide Receivers (Seniors)

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  1. TedSlimmJr

    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    1. James Washington / Oklahoma St. / 6'0", 205

    2. Dante Pettis / Washington / 6'1", 188 (Additionally, one of the most dangerous punt returners in the country.)

    3. J'Mon Moore / Missouri / 6'3", 205

    4. D.J. Chark / LSU / 6'3", 187

    5. Darren Carrington / Utah / 6'2", 205

    6. Jester Weah / Pittsburgh / 6'3", 210

    7. Cedrick Wilson / Boise St. / 6'3", 183

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    8. Allen Lazard / Iowa St. / 6'5", 223

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    9. Michael Gallup / Colorado St. / 6'1", 195

    10. Dorian Baker / Kentucky / 6'3", 208

    11. Andre Levrone / Virginia / 6'3", 225

    12. Jordan Villamin / Oregon St. / 6'5", 220

    13. Allenzae Staggers / Southern Miss / 6'1", 190

    14. Linell Bonner / Houston / 6'0", 202

    15. Robert Foster / Alabama / 6'2", 191

    16. Cody Thompson / Toledo / 6'2", 200

    17. Jaleel Scott / New Mexico St. / 6'6", 215

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    18. Marcell Ateman / Oklahoma St. / 6'4", 220

    19. Anthony Miller / Memphis / 5'11", 190

    20. Donald Gray / Mississippi St. / 5'10", 204

    21. Steve Ishmael / Syracuse / 6'2", 210

    22. Ka'Raun White / W. Virginia / 6'1", 199

    23. Damion Ratley / Texas A&M / 6'3", 190

    24. Javon Wims / Georgia / 6'3", 215

    25. Da'Mari Scott / Fresno St. / 6'1", 210

    26. Cam Phillips / Virginia Tech / 6'0", 202

    27. Jonathan Duhart / Old Dominion / 6'3", 221

    28. Josh Stewart / UTSA / 6'4", 200

    29. Adonis Jennings / Temple / 6'3", 205

    30. Marquez Valdes-Scantling / S. Florida / 6'5", 207

    31. Taj Williams / TCU / 6'4", 193

    32. Daeshon Hamilton / Penn St. / 6'1", 205

    33. Devonte Boyd / UNLV / 6'1", 180

    34. Garrett Johnson / Kentucky / 5'11", 175

    35. Jeff Badet / Oklahoma / 6'0", 180 (Just transferred from Kentucky.)

    36. Shay Fields / Colorado / 5'11", 180

    37. Armanti Foreman / Texas / 6'0", 210

    38. Saeed Blacknall / Penn St. / 6'3", 212

    39. John Diarse / TCU / 6'1", 209

    40. Dylan Cantrell / Texas Tech / 6'3", 220

    41. Jeffery Mead / Oklahoma / 6'5", 195

    42. Thomas Owens / FIU / 6'1", 198

    43. Dijon Paschal / Arkansas St. / 6'1", 209

    44. Mikah Holder / San Diego St. / 6'0", 180

    45. Cameron Smith / Notre Dame / 5'11", 203 (Transfer from Arizona St.)

    46. Jared Cornelius / Arkansas / 5'11", 212

    47. Sam Martin / Miami (OH) / 6'2", 196
















    Slot/Return Specialist:

    1. Charles Nelson / Oregon / 5'8", 170

    2. De'Mornay Pierson-El / Nebraska / 5'9", 185

    3. Janarion Grant / Rutgers / 5'10", 180

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    4. Braxton Berrios / Miami / 5'9", 185

    5. Austin Proehl / N. Carolina / 5'10", 175

    6. Brandon Powell / Florida / 5'9", 184

    7. Kylen Towner / W. Kentucky / 5'8", 175
     
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  2. ckparrothead

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    Slimm, you've gotta get your eyes on Andre Levrone, Jr. of Virginia.

    Came out of nowhere. Only 25 catches from 2014 to 2016, including only 8 catches in 2016. Even in 2017 you see him subbing off the field a bit and may not even technically be considered a starter. So there's some stuff to be reckoned with as to why Virginia has disliked him and takes him off the field, a lot of times on obvious run downs.

    But I'm watching him block and he looks fine. Better than fine, matter of fact. Whether it's a run or whether he's running a "route" that is really just blocking for a guy underneath, he looks strong and feisty as hell. The substitution pattern is probably just an idiosyncratic offensive tendency thing for Bronco Mendenhall.

    He's 6'3" & 225 lbs (might end up more like 6'2" & 220 lbs at measurement, hard to say).

    But the dude can PLAY. He broke out against the UConn Huskies and then followed it up against Boise State this weekend. I didn't watch his UConn game but I was checking out Kurt Benkert and noticed this guy immediately.

    This is where he first stood out to me:



    That was a pretty nice sell. Looked to me like that corner kind of wanted to sit but couldn't because of the way this 6'3" & 225 lbs man sold the deep fade with his hips and feet.

    Then he follows up with this beauty, which lets you know this guy has some serious speed to contend with (which clearly CB Reid Harrison-Ducros cannot handle):


    (replay)

    Then you watch him knife past two deep defenders (CB DeAndre Pierce and S Kekoa Nawahine) when he had no business doing that...



    Good hands and feet to get beyond the jam, too...



    Oh and he's a standout on punt coverage, of course...

    https://youtu.be/dQsYXO2cRRI?t=6184

    Another underneath catch...

    https://youtu.be/dQsYXO2cRRI?t=6486

    And, of course, the double move...

    https://youtu.be/dQsYXO2cRRI?t=6622
    https://youtu.be/dQsYXO2cRRI?t=6651 (replay)

    The only real chink in the armor on this day against Boise State was that a few plays after that double move catch, he called his own number out of the game with what looked like either a side stitch or a back strain. Never went back in, not even on special teams.
     
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    This kind of talent doesn't truly come out of nowhere. Here's a play he made with QB Matt Johns in 2014 as a FRESHMAN...on FABIAN MOREAU, no less:



    And then this one on CB P.J. Williams (future 3rd rounder) back in 2014, also as a FRESHMAN:

     
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    Yes I've seen both games against Boise and UCONN and was a little curious who this kid was and why he's suddenly producing.

    However, it's pretty typical to find these NFL body WR's breaking out later in their career when they finally get a quarterback. Virginia hasn't had any consistency at the QB position in a decade. Benkert was supposed to become the starter at E. Carolina when Shane Carden graduated.

    Thanks for the heads up. I'll probably break him down this week. Looks like a kid that belongs here.
     
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    Some work I've done on Andre Levrone:

    This is what little I could find versus William & Mary, first game of the year:

    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Vertical - Catch 34 Yards TD
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Replay 34 Yard TD Catch

    This is him from the Indiana game in 2017, nice matchup with CB Rashard Fant:

    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom Slot - Out Route
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Punt Coverage
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Vertical Route vs Press
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Deep Vertical vs Press (Rashard Fant) - Incomplete Overthrown
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Route vs. Press
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Vertical Route vs Press (Rashard Fant) - Incomplete Overthrown (Fant held him)
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Punt Coverage
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom Slot - Route vs Press
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom Inside - Punt Coverage
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Vertical vs Press (Rashard Fant - Gets Hurt)
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Route
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Punt Coverage
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Whip Route - Catch 5 Yards
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Vertical (Rashard Fant) - Holding Called
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Replay Holding Call
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Motion - Route
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Stutter and Go - Incomplete Overthrown
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Punt Coverage
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Curl - Dropped
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Run Block
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Fade Route - Catch 19 Yards

    His game against UCONN.

    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Block for Screen
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Short Out - Catch 5 Yards
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Run Block
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Block for Screen
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Run Block
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Route
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Route vs Press
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Run Block
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Route vs Press
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Run Block
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Deep Vertical vs Man - Catch 39 Yards
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Replay - 39 Yard Catch
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Scramble Curl - Catch 9 Yards
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Run Block (nasty)
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom Slot - Corner Route - Catch & Run 73 Yards TD
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Replay - 73 Yard Catch TD

    This is the subsequent Boise State game:

    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Curl - Catch 9 Yards
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Replay 9 Yard Catch
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Vertical - Catch 30 Yards TD
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Replay 30 Yard TD Catch
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Vertical - Catch 64 Yards TD
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Replay 64 Yard TD Catch
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Route vs Press
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom Inside - Punt Coverage
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Comeback - Catch 8 Yards
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Top - Double Move - Catch 31 Yards
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Replay 31 Yard Catch

    And this is from when he was a Freshman at UVA, some big plays he made against big names:

    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom Slot - Vertical - Catch 29 Yards TD (Fabian Moreau Coverage)
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Replay Freshman TD Catch on Fabian Moreau
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Bottom - Fade - Catch 16 Yards TD (P.J. Williams Coverage)
    YouTube Time Stamp LINK: Replay Freshman TD Catch on P.J. Williams
     
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    I have mentioned before when talking about QB Kyle Kempt from Iowa State that to be fair, he's throwing to a couple of studs in the skill unit.

    One of those studs is WR Allen Lazard.

    I've not done much on him to be honest, but from what I have seen of him, it's conceivable I could like him nearly as much as Mike Evans...and Evans was one of my absolute favorites over the last five years.
     
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    Lazard was initially my #3 Senior receiver back in May. He's not the beast Mike Evans was. Not really comparable in terms of explosiveness, otherwise he'd already be at the next level. He can't create the separation in and out of breaks that Evans can. However, he's always been a consistent producer throughout his career despite never really having a quarterback, which I like about him. More of a size mismatch that excels at adjusting to mediocre passes than a true vertical threat like Evans.

    The main knock I have with him is he's inconsistent catching the ball and has struggled through it at times. Even McShay commented about it on the sidelines while I was watching Iowa St. play Texas I believe.

    I have a 3rd round grade on him, feel like he grades out similar to how I had Kenny Golladay in last year's receiver class.
     

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