When you can't attack the issue, attack the person. Pathetic.ajajaj said:he only thinks when he can belittle a conversation. The obvious some how eludes him.:confused:
When you can't attack the issue, attack the person. Pathetic.ajajaj said:he only thinks when he can belittle a conversation. The obvious some how eludes him.:confused:
DBroncos4life said:Regardless of how I worded it, it still comes out that the Phins where trying to trade a player after they knew he didn't pass his 4th test meaning he could be out for atleast one year. You don't think Denvers FO has the right to know whats going on when it comes to trying to trade for a player? I could just see a team trying to trade a player that is in a coma when no one knows about it
jspchief said:When you can't attack the issue, attack the person. Pathetic.
ajajaj said:oh, no. I can attack the issue, that was just for fun...:wink: seemed intellegent
so how does it feel to be the pot calling the kettle black?
DBroncos4life said:SO let me get this straight, The Phins first find out Ricky failed a test and STILL tried to trade a player that was suspended??? If your FO tried something like that with us, you bet your *** we would have leaked the story. Also you can't cut a player that has been suspended, its against the rules. So you can forget about the idea Denver will just pick him up after you cut him.
ajajaj said:Maybe you didn't read my post completely, or just didn't understand what I said.
Of course Denver has the right to fully investigate any and all possible trades and know as much as possible about the player they are going to invest a lot of money in.
That's not my point. You went around my point that regardless of what they learned they had no right to go public with it. That is a federal offense. Unfortunately the freedom of the press allows for the author to keep his source secret and the guilty party will be allowed to screw more people over in the future with apparently no negative affects to them.
So yes if it makes you happy I think the fins knew of the failed test and thought it to be a winnable appeal. Therefore were trying to set up the trade after the "behind the scenes" appeal was concluded.
Then I beleive the ngotiations went south for whatever reason and Miami wanted to much and/or Denver tried to low ball at the last minute. Then when it was appearant the deal might not go through, they wanted to make sure if they didn't get him nobody else (that could negatively affect their super bowl run in '06) would get him. Miami I don't believe, as we stand now, is a contender in Denver's eyes so him stayinig in Miami won't be to bad for them. If he goes to Pittsburgh, Indy, Oakland, or another team with a strong O-Line that might become a contender with Ricky having him on the open market for trade could hinder their super bowl run.
AquaAssasin said:It would never be proved which is good if your Denver.
We are not way over the cap. Our cap number is high because the voided contracts are still on there. We rework a couple deals already.westernnyphinfa said:No that's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that your way over the cap, old age Broncos, wondered why miami had not responded to the trade that was offerred, then decided to investigate, and some idiot at the NFL League office , who probably will be fired, leaked the information that Williams failed the test.
Is that clear, or are you to busy smoking the 1 oz weed that's legal to carry around in Mile "high" town?
DBroncos4life said:wow, the story was leaked to Denver, not the other way around, so if any laws got broken it was by the NFL not Denver. As I said before how is Williams a upgrade over Edge? Pretty much a wash, Pitt wouldn't trade for Williams either, I told you they have RBs. Parker is very good. The Raiders? They have the worst Oline in the NFL, and they just gave Jordan a ton of cash last year. Maybe they would trade for him, but that team isn't going anywhere. As far as low balling Denver never ever said they would give anything high for Williams, and why would they? He will be 29 to start the next year, they have more rushing yards then any team over the last 15 years, MA and Bell rushed for 1900 plus yards and 20 tds. Our system is made to take any back and make them look good. Sure it would be great to have a back like Williams but not for what you guys think he is worth. Get real we wouldn't trade a 2nd rounder for Dillion and he never quit for a year nor has he failed three drug tests before.
Really you have no more clue then I do if he can even win this appeal, all we know that it isn't for weed, still the NFL can say sorry you failed its over.
The NFL is NOT allowed to give info to teams about players the failed drug tests, if they did in fact give it to Denver thats their problem. Like I said before, Denver leaking this story really only HELPS Ricky.ajajaj said:Look, bottom line is Denver is dirty and this has stink written all over it. Make up all the crap about what teams wouldn't trade for Ricky. Oh, by the way the difference in Edge and Ricky is the Colts can afford Ricky, but not Edge, so NO they are no where close to a wash.
Denver is asside from the Raiders the worst organization in the NFL, possibly all of sports.
The NFL gave the info to Denver on their request for info on a player they were trading for. Denver gave that info to the press. Why would an NFL source want to lose his job and potentially get sued for going to the press?
ajajaj said:Look, bottom line is Denver is dirty and this has stink written all over it. Make up all the crap about what teams wouldn't trade for Ricky. Oh, by the way the difference in Edge and Ricky is the Colts can afford Ricky, but not Edge, so NO they are no where close to a wash.
Denver is asside from the Raiders the worst organization in the NFL, possibly all of sports.
The NFL gave the info to Denver on their request for info on a player they were trading for. Denver gave that info to the press. Why would an NFL source want to lose his job and potentially get sued for going to the press?
I don't believe the NFL can give out any info about a player. How Denver ended up with the NFL doesn't really matter, the fact is this looks bad on the NFL's part because the story got leaked. Which means Denver in ways only helped Williams out by making him have a stronger case against the NFL.westernnyphinfa said:Are we certain that the Broncos were given that information (by the NFL), or did someone give it without permission,
Meaning is it policy for the league to allow each franchise to share confidential information regarding a player???? Or should the NFL had told the Broncos they had no information as of right now, and then made it public once the appeal process completed?
DBroncos4life said:I don't believe the NFL can give out any info about a player. How Denver ended up with the NFL doesn't really matter, the fact is this looks bad on the NFL's part because the story got leaked. Which means Denver in ways only helped Williams out by making him have a stronger case against the NFL.
Well that would play right into the poster that claimed RW was in Denver last week.westernnyphinfa said:That's a very interesting point. Im going to have to mull that over, so your saying that its possible both sides miami/denver knew about the failed test, and figured that in leaking the info would pressure the nfl into allowing ricky to play? For an oliver stone conspiracy theorist (that's me) I like your theory.