Starting to like Eifert over Austin

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  1. phish

    phish Well-Known Member

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    I have been all over Austin as he has shown great explosiveness and the ability to score from anywhere and from any position.......Recently, I have been checking out Eifert. If we take him at 12 we could also get another great slot guy in Swope at 2a or even 2b. Then use our other 2nd on a tackle or CB.......... I would rather have Eifert and Swope than Austin and Ertz. I think this day and age, the way the NFL has changed, we can find an adequate tackle from a 2nd, 3rd, or even a 4th round pick as they seem "less" important to a Super Bowl winning team. I know many of you guys want a LT with our 1st pick, but I think Jeffy, with his job on the line, will not do it. Sexy sells, and a LT does not... Worst case scenario is that we do draft a tackle in the later rounds and sign Winston.........Just my opinion; what do you guys think???
     
  2. 13marino13

    13marino13 What is the frequency Kenneth

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    Believe it or not, I would actually take Eifert... I never would have said that 2 months ago, but after our recent FA pickups it would seem to make sense. Look at all your better teams, most of them have a respectable if not really good tight end. To me it's worth it if he lives up to his potential and is set at the position for awhile. It's been a long time since we've had a TE that other teams had to respect. He not only would solve the seam threat issue we've had for awhile, but would also give us a nice red zone target which we are sorely lacking. A top flight TE would just about complete our offense.
     
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    im good with this. lets get swope too please
     
  4. mrad

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    Eifert might be the way to go . If we trade back and get more pics . There are alot of good players in this draft and with a cpl more picks we can fill pretty much all our needs .
     
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    I like Eifert and wouldn't be upset w/ that pick, but drafting Austin and then Kelce w/ either our late 2nd or 3rd round picks would make me pretty darn happy too.
     
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    Welcome to my eifert at 12 parade
     
  7. 3rdandinches

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    He would be another great option at 12. Helping RT out with a reliable target would only be a smart move.

    We could easily still use FA to fill a couple immediate needs with J.Abraham and E.Winston/T.Clabo.
     
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    I'd much rather have Eifert and Swope than Austin and Kelcie. X 1000
     
  9. j-off-her-doll

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    I'd prefer the combination of Austin/Kelce to Eifert/Swope, but I don't think either answer is wrong.
     
  10. insomnia411

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    Love it. He's the next Jeremy Shockey minus the attitude.
     
  11. aquaman54

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    For me.....Eifert has been the pick all along.With Keller/Eifert,we'll have our own Gronkowski/Hernandez safety valves for Tanney.There is NO "CAN'T MISS" pick......but this is as close as you'll get to it!!!
     
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    I agree. Look at what the Colts did with Dwayne Allen and Coby Fleener. Pats with Gronk and Hernandez. Vikings trying to help Ponder by loading up TE's. Bears same thing..

    Eifert and Keller make Tannehill a top 15 qb out of the gate
     
  13. TTRON

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    Even last year we moved the ball between the 20's. Are defence allowed teams to move between the 20's but did a very good job keeping them out of the endzone. Presently we have greatly improved our abiltiy to move between the 20;s and an ability to score from deep but have not greatly improved inside the 20 offence-so I also think Eifert is the guy. His supposed weakness-lacking great speed does not matter close to endzone-his height and incredible ability to snatch the ball up high fit perfect.
     
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    I like Eifert, I really do. But I think Austin/ Ertz is better than Eifert /Swope - I would be thrilled either way. But I don't see Eifert that much higher than Ertz. I see Austin much higher than Swope.
     
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    I don't really disagree w/ you but I can't imagine a situation where Ertz falls all the way to us at 44. We would probably have to trade back into the mid to high 20s to grab Ertz after taking Austin at 12, and I'm not sure if we would be able to do that without giving up both 2nd rounders... If we can get from 44 to say 30 and give up something like a 3rd and a 4th then we might be talkin.

    I just think that Eifert is a pick that we won't regret at 12. I love his skill set long term and his immediate impact would be huge. Putting Eifert in the slot or at TE on the field at the same time as Wallace, Hartline and Keller with Miller in the backfield gives us the ability to attack every single area of the field and creates huge matchup problems for defenses. I didn't even mention the possibility of having Eifert at TE and Bess in the slot with Wallace and Hartline or Gibson outside, and I'm salivating about the potential of these offensive sets.
    If we can nab Eifert at 12 and then fill out our needs at cb, ot, pass rusher, and rb with our next 4 picks I will be a very happy man.
     
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    best hands in this draft class.
     
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    Sometimes the draft just falls your way. That's Miami this year with Tyler Eifert.

    Ireland doesn't need to do a thing at #12. Just sit back and add high quality talent to the roster. Don't over think it.
     
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    Don't think Keller was our first choice because he isn't a great red zone threat, eifert would sort that. Count me as one who would have him as my first choice.
     
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    Amen.
     
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    I like Eifort as well. Have for a while. With the projected picks I don't see anyone else worth the 12th pick. We can get the other peices later in the draft.
     
  21. Digital

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    Welcome aboard. The Eifert/Swope train adds explosiveness and speed to 2 positions, but also will score more TD's. Eifert is the very best red zone TE in this draft. He has length and lift to go over DB's with ease. He is the best catcher in traffic in this draft as well. Put the ball on his hands and it's a touchdown, and Tannehill has shown that he has consistent pinpoint accuracy. Not to mention that Eifert is fast and runs a great seam route. He is a no-risk throw on the seam route too, because he's strong enough to survive the jostling down the deep middle without being bounced away and allowing an INT. He is taller and longer to create a bigger throwing window for Tannehill. He adjusts to the ball in the air very well, so even errant throws are caught or knocked down. And, he is so good at catching in traffic that your completion percentage at those big chunk plays will rise dramatically. Nobody cares how fast you were if you drop the ball.

    Eifert is going to join the group of elite TE's in this league. I hope it's as a Miami Dolphin. He reminds me of Tony Gonzalez.
     
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    Eiifert and Swope tearing up the middle with Wallace and Hartline and going down the flanks..... man thats a beautiful (and scary) thought.


    Give me Eifert over Austin any day of the week. Maybe less fancy highlights but Eifert will contribute every down whether he is blocking, going down the field or catching in the red zone.

    I see the Gonzalez comparison but he reminds me more of Jason Witten.
     
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    I could live with Eifert at #12....I don't think Eifert or Ertz will be around when we pick again at 2A. Many people like us taking Travis Kelce in round three, but some other team might grab him. There are more high quality WR's out there this year than top TE's, so I think Eifert could be the pick if we go with Offense in the first. I have a feeling a team like the Rams takes Austin in the first to replace Amendola/Gibson.
     
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    If Eifert is such a good red zone TE, why did he score so few TDs at Notre Dame (4 in 2011 and 5 in 2012)? I'm not against taking him at 12, just curious about the circumstances around his relatively average red zone production in college.
     
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    This is just my opinion, but Notre Dame's qbs were horrid.
     
  26. uk_dolfan

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    Not to mention he was double teamed all season, he was the main weapon on his team.
     
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    Now were talking i love ur draft picks there , if it came close to them picks, New England will have to take a back seat cus will be right on the driver side ....
     
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    Draft >
    1. T.Eifert TE
    2. E.Lacy RB
    2. J.Poyer CB
    3. R.Swoop WR
    3. C.Washington DE
    4. B.Williams OT
    5. B.McGee CB
    6. D.Hopkins K
    7. T.Hawkinson OT

    FA signing J.Abraham DE
     
  29. Digital

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    Well dcnr226 beat me to it, but Notre Dame's QB's were atrocious. They had one "passing" QB who was poor, and one "running" QB who was downright terrible. Those guys couldn't put the ball anywhere consistently, which is one of the reasons we know Eifert is so good at adjusting to bad throws ... because he had to adjust to so many bad throws at Notre Dame.

    Additionally, Notre Dame's coach Kelly prefers an exciting open offense, but he didn't have the personnel to make it work last year. So, he played to his team's strength, the defense. He went for ball control and used an explosive runner as his QB to try and generate chunk yardage that way. It was successful. When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade ... even if you want rum and soda. Notre Dame's QB's were two flavors of lemons.
     
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    I want Austin but would be ok with Eifert as long as they pick up another receiver, who has some good speed/ play making ability, with one of their first 4 picks. CB, DE, TE, WR, then OT should be the priorities with the first 5 picks.
     
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    I don't get the love to draft a TE.
    Have you watched this team the last 5 years? It has been woefully slow- no playmakers, no big plays.
    Can Eifert return kickoffs or punts?
    Can he run a reverse for 50 yards?
    Austin is the #1 big play player in the entire draft.
    If Wallace runs deep, Auistin underneath will be a nightmare matchup.
    Keller is adequate. This team needs speed.
     
  32. j-off-her-doll

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    You know, I mentioned a few days ago that Austin reminds me of Welker with turbo boosters, and I just realized that Dana Holgorsen was Welker's coach at Texas Tech. Austin said in his little nfl.com draft preview clip that he watched a lot of Welker and how he makes adjustments on routes. Compares himself to Harvin and Welker.
     

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