Swope wouldnt mind reunion with Tanny..

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  1. Danny68

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    i honestly doubt its gonna happen. we already have bess
     
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    I would not mind grabbing this guy with out 4th rounder. Chemistry is HUGE between WR and QB and clearly these two guys have it.
     
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    As the president of the FH Ryan Swope fan club I really hope this happens. Swope is smart, a great route runner, a good catcher of the ball and is a tough son of a b*****. Swope can even block which is always a nice feature in a WR. He could be productive from week one and would make players. A great mid round pick for whoever picks him up.

    Our QB's best friend and already knows the system. It just makes sense. Draft Woods and Swope and we will be well on the way to an amazing draft :up:
     
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    I think if Miami moved bess it would be a nice addition
     
  6. Digital

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    I like Swope and would love to have him play the slot for us. I think he is a very low risk pick with a very good value in the 3rd round and a steal in the 4th. But, I think he's the last part of the equation. By that I mean, first we need to sort out our FA and marquee rookie. One of those two needs to be a deep threat. If it's Wallace and Patterson, then by all means, grab Swope in the 3rd. If it's Jennings and Wheaton, then we might need to draft 1 more speed guy because we'd be too reliant on a small and possibly frail deep threat in Wheaton and already invested in a marquee slot guy in Jennings. Regardless, if Swope is there in the 4th, you take him, because he's going to offer a lot.

    I used to consider myself a Davone Bess guy, because he has quickness and route running to create separation and has good hands. But, he is still a very very small WR who really can only play the slot, has no deep speed and not a real game breaker in any sense of the word. He is a possession receiver that requires a great throw by the QB to be effective. I don't mean to downplay his ability, because I've always liked our little UDFA. But, when I hear Mike Mayock say things like "who is the best slot guy these days .... someone like Davone Bess maybe?" and see so many posters who think Bess is a top 5 slot guy, it boggles my mind. Just so we're on the same page, it's guys like Greg Jennings, Victor Cruz, Wes Welker, Randall Cobb, and Percy Harvin that would be my top 5 at the position, and all of those guys have game-breaking speed, are deep threats, generate fantastic RAC and do or will command top dollar in the FA market. Davone Bess is lucky to be paid like he already is, and wouldn't generate anywhere near the interest in FA as the top slot guys.

    Swope would be an improvement over Bess. Swope probably doesn't have quite as good hands as Bess, but is as good of a route runner, much faster, is a bigger target, younger player, can get deep on nickel backs, and has open field running ability. He is also less injury prone (more muscle mass) and would cost a LOT less because of his low round rookie salary.

    People who want Swope should understand that grabbing Swope most likely makes Bess expendable.
     
  7. Digital

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    One other thing. Ben Volin aquitted himself very well on the NFL Network today noting our FA situation and Draft fits. He was astute, insightful and engaging. Well done Ben.

    He mentioned we want to retain Bush but see Miller as the starter now. At #12 he mentioned Cordarrelle Patterson as the WR that made sense and repeatedly mentioned how we need to surround Tannehill with playmakers. Other options he mentioned included TE's Ertz and Eifert or a LT should Jake Long not re-sign. He noted the potential for a pass rusher but didn't give any specifics. At CB he talked about Milliner, Banks and Rhodes but didn't seem to suggest that was our primary point of interest. Offensive playmakers was our main focus.
     
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    In round 3 or 4, I'd be down. I did not know he was that big honestly
     
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    Draft him with 3B, no brainer in 4th. It wouldnt hurt if this FOnhad a lintel foresight for once. Bess contractual is up what, at the ene of next year? Viola! His replacement is swopes, and he Will already have a year under his belt when we bess leaves, not to mentirón what he already has with tanne from AnM.

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    Sorry for typos. Using ipad with spanish spell check...
     
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    Trade Bess and his bigger contract for a 3rd or 4th and use it on Swope!
     
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    I want Swope here but I doubt it happens. It usually never works out that way.
     
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    If we lose Hartline, sure why not!

    Lord knows Tannehill won't have the "chemistry" he needs at WR without...

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    Swope gives you a 4 year rookie contract...minimum for a 4th rounder...saves cap space. What's not to like...he's Wes Welker Jr.
     
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    I'm all for drafting Swope... the kid looks pretty good.
     
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    Is Swope better than Bess? Can he do more than pure slot receiver?
     
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    +Swope basically means -Bess.

    Jennings and Hartline are just more of the same. We need a HOME RUN guy. An "X", a 1 guy.

    I happen to like Bess and I hope he stays. He is one of a select few guys on this team that has earned his pay the last 5 years.
     
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    Absolutely would not mind bringing swope down late in the draft
     
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    Bess is okay but it's time that we upgrade the slot position. He's too slow and rarely shakes anyone.
     
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    I'm really curious about this as well. Is Swope Better than Bess? If so in what way?
     
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    Watch NE pick up Swope and let Welker walk.
     
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    Swope has the two things you can't teach. HEART and Passion for the game. Those two combos alone make him a heck of a prospect. This kids gonna come in with a huge chip on his shoulder for being a late rnd draft choice and prove a lot of people wrong.
     
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    I have no doubt...that before Miami's first pick in the 4th... Watch NE position.
     
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    Some of you are saying...sure,get him with our 3b pick or 4th rd pick...to hell with that,i say trade down in the 1st,acquire a third 2nd rd pick,and draft Ryan Swope with one of our 2nd rd picks. Even if doing so is overdrafting him,oh well,at least we made sure we got him,and that gives RT17 not only a friend,but a weapon he's familiar with,and who's familiar with him. That my fellow Dolphins fans is a step in making our offense and team as a whole better..and isn't that what we all want for our favorite pro football team?!!
     
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    faster, quicker, can get downfield and score. prob deeper/trickier route tree.

    But the intangibles here are off the charts. He knows the system, he knows our Qb intimately, he is more a clutch reciever IMO.

    All that said, I still like Bess. The value of having Bess was spectacular.

    Bess advantage is PR.
     
  25. uk_dolfan

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    Six of one half a dozen of another, Swope will get better though. Smart, tough, effective player. I would want Bess and Swope on my roster.
     
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    I get what your saying completely. The thing that has been out there in articles is what if we get our WR in FA? Matthews is already our #3. I dont care what anyone says. Hartline, if he is resigned, we really only need to look to upgrade #4 and Swope is a guy who can make that happen quickly.

    We have Binns and people think Fuller is done but I wouldnt read into that too much. They will bring him along on PS and one day suddenly there he is. There is a much bigger picture here than people give credit for.

    thats why TE is very important.
     
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    I agree,a TE,or let me say acquiring a stud TE is very important,and i understand the rest of your post here. But in regards to Swope,he has produced stud numbers with Tannehill,and even in a system that didn't really suit him,he produced strong numbers this past season with Johnny Football at QB. He had a strong Senior Bowl and if he has a strong combine today,he may not make it out of the 2nd rd come draft time. That's why i said get him in the 2nd rd,because i expect him to get drafted in that rd,and i want it to be us who drafts him. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Ryan Tannehill has said something to Sherman,Philbin,&Ireland about trying to bring Swope to Miami.
     

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