The Patriots have Fumbled the ball far less than Anybody Since 2000...............

[Rev Kev]

What a glorious off season it will be - BB defending himself when he did nothing wrong - then why is he defending himself - I wouldn't

 

[MR NFLFAN]

What a glorious off season it will be - BB defending himself when he did nothing wrong - then why is he defending himself - I wouldn't

What a conclusion sherlock

 

[Rev Kev]

What a conclusion sherlock

Time to unload all your Brady football cards ~

 

[MR NFLFAN]

:up:

 

[MD]

Certainly you guys are not holding to the word of analysts that are paid to give their opinion by a network known to pay their analysts to take a position on an issue are you?

Now comes word that it may not be what was initially reported. Surprise, surprise.

 

[MD]

maddog, weren't you the one posting a study done by espn or shown on espn about how small a difference it would be, with a more deflated ball?

In timing for the ball to reach point A to point B. Less air slows the ball.

 

[MD]

Exactly...and I have done it.

Obviously at some point it becomes too deflated...but at the required levels its a lot harder to grip it and control it than with 2 pounds deflation.

And I'm quite sure Mark Brunnell has thrown more NFL footballs than myself or anyone on this forum.

I would love to hear Marino's take on it.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...teve-young-nfl-deflategate-patriots/22130249/

 

[slk018]

Patriots shocking low percentage of fumbles

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/

This is very interesting and a long read. It is from Warren (I think) Sharp. He is a football odds guy and his blog is interesting. The article im referring to is the second one down. However, the updated one is interesting as well.

 

[trojanma]

Great read slk

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[s70pimp]

Sneaky SOB's

 

[hilslo]

It would be more compelling if the author would perform the analysis on games played outdoors only and also eliminated QB fumbles (often caused by botched QB-Center exchanges or strips of exposed balls where air pressure is unlikely to matter). I hope the league is doing this level of analysis but am doubtful.

 

[slk018]

It would be more compelling if the author would perform the analysis on games played outdoors only and also eliminated QB fumbles (often caused by botched QB-Center exchanges or strips of exposed balls where air pressure is unlikely to matter). I hope the league is doing this level of analysis but am doubtful.

What stood out to me was New England is far and away the "best" at limiting fumbles, and all the teams close (not statistically close) were indoor teams.

 

[NY8123]

Yeah this write-up makes you go hmmmmmm.....for sure. People balk at the effect of 2psi on a significant level but they wouldn't be doing it if there wasn't some advantage.

 

[MR NFLFAN]

Yeah this write-up makes you go hmmmmmm.....for sure. People balk at the effect of 2psi on a significant level but they wouldn't be doing it if there wasn't some advantage.

:idk:

 

[truedolfan57]

In timing for the ball to reach point A to point B. Less air slows the ball.

ok, so in this thread you think there is clearly a disadvantage to a more deflated ball. but in the 11 of 12 pats footballs thread, you said this:

Actually a sports science study was done and determined the velocity of the ball would be reduced by .003 seconds on a 20 yard throw. Based on averages that is less than an inch that a timed route of that distance would be affected. Just watched that on ESPN.

They also concluded that average Joe's like us could squeeze the ball an additional 1mm. An NFL player could increase their grip 1.5 %

If this is the Packers its a non story.

Pretty much showing how little this affects a throw. So where's the disadvantage? Need to learn how to keep your stories straight. and besides, there's more to a deflated ball than passing. like reduced fumbles...