Time to tell Richie Incognito ‘thanks but no thanks’

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  1. jim1

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    Speaking of risk and reward, those issues are front and center with Incognito. The St. Louis Rams knew all about Incognito’s checkered past when they drafted him in the third round in 2005. He’d been such a bad boy off the field at Nebraska the coaching staff suspended him for the 2004 season, prompting his transfer to Oregon, where NCAA rules prohibited him from playing. His problems continued with the Rams to the point where, despite having started him in 44 games over four seasons, they let him go last December. Buffalo picked him up but, despite the lack of any depth on its offensive line, also decided against keeping him.

    Sparano and offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo reportedly had dinner with Ignognito Monday night and he was scheduled to work out Tuesday. Sparano and DeGuglielmo are no-nonsense guys who have spent their adult lives around offensive linemen, and one can imagine Incognito telling them everything they wanted to hear about cleaning up his act. Still, how can anyone - including Incognito himself - predict how he’ll react when, say, he gets clocked in the jaw by an opponent and no flag is thrown? And if officials see an altercation in which Incognito is involved, with his reputation, how would you expect them to react?

    Everyone can point to situations where a bad boy got straightened out. It’s certainly worked out that way of late with Randy Moss, although there were signs of him unraveling last year in New England as well. But it seems in 90 percent of these cases, the behavior doesn’t change and sooner rather than later the time comes to move on once again.
    Porter is gone. With Miami’s other draft needs and Bill Parcells’ reluctance to take receivers high in the draft, Bryant is likely not coming. As for Incognito, as much as the Dolphins need O-line depth, this should be a case of ‘good luck wherever you wind up.’

    http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...o-tell-richie-incognito-thanks-but-no-thanks/

    note: What is the risk, what is the reward? If he works out you have a potential starter at G and a big, strong, explosive back up C. I say sign him. If he causes problems you release him- no big deal.
     
  2. skipp2myloo13

    skipp2myloo13 Rookie

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    having to fight for a starting job should make him hungry to please. Plus with our no-nonsense guys, MIA is the best place for him, IMO. He seems like he is a small risk but bigger reward to me.
     
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    He was not in a good situation in St. Louis , Its understandable why he did what he did..

    Players get frustrated...

    If we get him I think he will mature here and def earn his money..

    I think we really need this guy...I think he can come in and start, if not he can contribute, He is young and nasty..

    He is our type of guy..Him being a phin at this point makes perfect sense.
     
  4. twg76

    twg76 Proverbs 3:5-6

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    He is a tricky player to add to your roster. Miami should be very careful with him. Sparano should be careful. His contract should be written very carefully. They should load it with stipulations. "If you do this, you get this" and "If you do that, you get nothing".

    Also, the South Florida heat straightens a lot of guys up itself. LOL. It humbles you after awhile.
     
  5. Krie30511

    Krie30511 Seasoned Veteran

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    How 'bout we tell him "It's a DEAL!".... Our Oline needs someone like this...

     
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    im all for it to, let him fight for a spot on the team and who ever gets beat will be a good back up...............
     
  7. metalman32060

    metalman32060 Misplaced PhinFan

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    I agree this guy could possibly be a starter on our O-line, if we can have him keep his nasty attitude on the field under control it would be a great move.
     
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    Logo change.....the Miami Nuns...**** pregame meals...were doing pregame church service....yaaaa boiiii
     
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    some times,,it takes alittle more TIME to grow up
     
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    Nah dude....didnt you know? Everyone on this site had millions and were fully mature at 23.
     
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    well he wouldn't be guaranteed a starting position, plus we wouldn't have to break the bank on him, so there isn't much risk involved. If he acts out or screws up, you cut him.
     
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    I could say the same about this thread.
     
  13. ArmyFin7

    ArmyFin7 U cry about the $$$, we do the dirtywork

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    Highly doubtful he will get a long term deal for lots of $$$$.....so where is the risk?
     
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    after awhile, theres only so many roster spots available.

    so the notion that some of these guys take to just sign him and if he gets out of line, cut him, no big deal is a bit off IMO.

    it is a big deal when you cut people. FA's are targets who SHOULD contribute. especially a guy of this guys physicality. this guy does us no good if he rides the pine. if he doesn't win a roster spot it's a waste.

    I dont see why we think he's gonna be relatively cheap. obviously he wont demand a huge number. but with visits to cincy, and reports that STL was even interested in bringing him back, it's apparent that if he signs with us, it's probably because we offered him more $$$
     
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    ArmyFin7 U cry about the $$$, we do the dirtywork

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    so, if he's not a starter he's a waste? If nothing else he will make good depth.

    If someone was offering him starter money, he wouldn't be comin to Miami.
     
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    Phin-Phan 66 Cunning Linguist

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    I agree - sign him with many stipulations in the contract regarding behavior / penalties. Low risk / high reward
     
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    I can't imagine Incognito is expecting to get a big money contract, and he should come relatively cheap. He comes in here, keeps his attitude in check, winds up being a starter and provides the nastiness that this OLine needs, while giving Jake Long a brusing guard next to him, the reward is steep. Worst case scenario, he's a backup/rotational guy with starting experience on the NFL level. I don't see any risk whatsoever in signing him.
     
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    The guy is a great run blocker and yes he is dirty but man if he gets away with a few cheap shots it will scare that guy across from him and make him jumpy... Sign him!!!
     
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    :lol2:
    We should just cheap shot everyone and scare everyone away:err:
     
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    FINSItalia God of Thunder, not a bad gig

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    Enable much? What was his excuse for doing the same things at Nebraska? Shouldn't he have learned his lesson and matured after he was kicked off that team.

    The risk to signing a guy like this is every time you preach you're building a physical, tough, smart football team and then you bring in a guy who isn't one of those things or a locker room malcontent, your message gets a little more hollow.

    Whether you have a WR who is the antithesis of "tough" or an G who is the opposite of "smart", keeping these guys on the team or bringing them in new looks like double speak. It won't take long for this guy to make a stupid penalty that may or may not cost a game and he come over to the sideline and won't like Tony getting in his face. It's his MO, it's what he does.

    The guy has great strength and power. If you sign him to a conditional low $ contract, the dollar risk is low, but don't ignore the locker room risk.
     
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    If thats Sarcasim you need to know what I meant... Idk if you ever played on a football team but man I played on the D-Line and sometime if someone threw a cheap shot in it will get frusturating and you will try to get a quick jump next play but what if they change the count... Offsides!!!
     
  23. miamiron

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    You and a NFL player are two different things...might not want to use youself as an example when comparing your skills

    but on another fun note [​IMG]

    Jumpy Geathers
    Height: 6-7 Weight: 283 Age: 49
    Born: 6/26/1960 Georgetown , SC
    College: Wichita State
    Experience: 14 Seasons



    I wonder why they called him JUMPY:ponder:
     
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    Ok dont remember his name but this guy was on the dline when ever he would rush he would slap the guy in the helment and make the O-line jumpy. Its D-line I know but it works lol... I know it was legal then but it was enough to get the o-line frustrated...
     
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    I liked it when I read it.
    I liked it when I spoke it out loud.
    I would have liked it, if I was looking over your shoulder while you typed it.

    I also love really big heavy boobies... but thats another thread.

    good post!!
     
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