UFC 61: Bitter Rivals
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shipwreck said:
It's precisely because of this perception many underestimate him. It's also because of that Sylvia decided to use steroids (until he was caught). Either way, physical appearance can be (and in his case is) deceptive.
In stand-up Sylvia is probably better than Arlovski. The one weakness he has (or seems to have) is submission and defending it (it's how Arlovski won the first time). Thing is, he's been training with the Miletich group, so that part of his arsenal should be getting up to par (though not on the same level as Arlovski).
Either way, neither of these guys are in the top 3 worldwide in their weightclass, so this fight is a bit of an anticlimax. I'm just hoping Ortiz shuts up Shamrock (Ortiz will probably win - that's not the point. The question is will Shamrock finally shut up about him being so deserving of respect??!!!).
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CDNPHIN said:
Actually, Tito was last generation. He used to be the light heavyweight champion until Couture and Liddell showed us they were better. It's just that in this fight we are seeing a dinosaur, Shamrock (like Gracie, though more all-rounded), fight a recent former champ.
I also hope St. Pierre is a coach for next season, but it probably won't happen; it's not clear who the other coach would be in his case. More likely is Sylvia and Arlovski (they want rivals remember?), unless they want Hughes as coach again.
By the way, it'll be hard for St. Pierre to beat Hughes in their title match sometime this year (I'm saying this since you're Canadian), but it will be a great match. Hughes's only weakness is getting choked out, and St. Pierre almost did that to him last time, but other than that Hughes's wrestling skills should make him the favorite. Those two are the best welterweights in the world hands down though.
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MikeO said:
You mean the contestants? 'Cuz the coaches in all 3 seasons so far are established guys, namely champs or recent champs except for Shamrock, who was a champ long time ago.
Sylvia and Arlovski are the two most established heavyweights in UFC (though not worldwide), so I'm not sure how what you said changes their selection for the coaches (they still want high ratings, meaning any rivalry is welcome: Sylvia vs Arlovski makes the most sense..)
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Would love to have Hughes & St.Pierre, with a title match at the end. I'm a
big fan of George, but love watchin' Hughes fight! Friggin powerhouse!!!
As for Sylvia I can see it, But Arlovski is'nt really T.V material.
big fan of George, but love watchin' Hughes fight! Friggin powerhouse!!!
As for Sylvia I can see it, But Arlovski is'nt really T.V material.
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Don King and Vince McMahon are smiling from ear to ear. UFC just pissed away that consumer PPV dollar!
Ortiz vs Shamrock and the stopage.......that just KILLED UFC's future business on PPV! All the hype and you have the ref stop it 1 min in??? A JOKE!!!! A short match on PPV isn't a problem, a short match a BS ending and a BS ref stopage is a death nail for UFC!
They just burned a ton of first time UFC viewers on PPV. And I highly doubt they will get them back.
Ortiz vs Shamrock and the stopage.......that just KILLED UFC's future business on PPV! All the hype and you have the ref stop it 1 min in??? A JOKE!!!! A short match on PPV isn't a problem, a short match a BS ending and a BS ref stopage is a death nail for UFC!
They just burned a ton of first time UFC viewers on PPV. And I highly doubt they will get them back.
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MikeO said:
why did they stop it so soon?