Lovethefish
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How about u SF?Would you take Brown at #5?
How about u SF?Would you take Brown at #5?
As far as talent goes yes, but not over Tua. Still think Miami has to get a quarterback.How about u SF?
I hear you, but were talking about extraordinary careers. I personally would take a couple average to good careers at offensive line. I like the initial list of 14 players, I'm thinking we should be able to land 2-3 of those players realistically, especially with a little help from other franchises needs.Seemingly devoid of OL. A huge need for Miami. Maybe I missed earlier posts.
Who was that tall receiver from USC we drafted and turned out to slow it was out of the league in a few years? I believe he was a third rounder, but I'm not sure. How quickly the names become irrelevant…There is one variable that accounts for a high percentage of first round busts at wide receiver. The NFL ignores that historically the ideal height for that position is 5-11 to 6-1. That shows up basically regardless of what criteria you look at. Yet the league continually falls in love with taller guys and rationalizes that this time it will be different. Well, it will be different in certain cases. You'll hit huge. But I have no idea how they can be surprised when so many of the taller receivers follow the historical norm of not panning out, guys like Charles Rogers or Kevin White or Laquon Treadwell, and I could keep going and going.
It will happen in this crop also. Jeudy at only 6-1 is probably advantaged not disadvantaged. It sort of reminds me of LPGA golf in which 5-6 height is overwhelmingly the most favorable range in terms of enough physical power but also short enough to have a repetitive swing. The much taller more powerful girls show up and are hyped far beyond the 5-6 types but most of them have erratic disappointing careers.
I do not like the fact that some hearsay he takes plays off. A true stud on the edge has a motor that never lets up.Young has bust written all over him. At least, in the sense that he never lives up to the hype.
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Who was that tall receiver from USC we drafted and turned out to slow it was out of the league in a few years? I believe he was a third rounder, but I'm not sure. How quickly the names become irrelevant…
I do not like the fact that some hearsay he takes plays off. A true stud on the edge has a motor that never lets up.
Watched him a few times do that and during the playoffs he did it alot. Some tried to say, "Well he was doubled teamed so..."
What the hell do you think is going to happen at the next level?
You think the Bosa brothers, the Watt brothers etc don't get doubled teamed?
Buyer beware with that player...
Who was that tall receiver from USC we drafted and turned out to slow it was out of the league in a few years? I believe he was a third rounder, but I'm not sure. How quickly the names become irrelevant…
Believe it or not Chase Young has actually improved in that aspect. He has long been notorious for coming to a flatfooted halt when the play is aimed away from him. It is very well known in Buckeye circles. When I was driving through Columbus a couple of months ago and listened to the Ohio State flagship station for an hour or so one of the callers made a joking reference to it. The hosts responded similarly.
I can't say I remember a play where he could have salvaged matters. It just looks bad because you see everyone else hustling while he's standing there. I saw him do it numerous times in the playoff game but not as bad as earlier in the season. There was even one play I expected him to stand around but instead he hesitated briefly then got going and nearly was a factor.
IMO, this is what is going on: Chase Young is accustomed to being a star and making splash plays. Guys like that don't like to be seen in a subordinate role. It's like a prima donna basketball player who waits for the next 3 point opportunity instead of diving for the loose ball.
I like the player. I keep going back to defenders who were truly great in college, again using names like Lawrence Taylor or Hugh Green, and Ted Hendricks from my youth. He never loafed like that. The Stork did exactly the opposite. He would stand up the runner, rip the ball away, and start running in the opposite direction until the referee called him back saying the whistle had blown. That happened several times per game.
Simple question, is he the best, most have, defensive player in this entire draft?
Imo it's Okudah, Young, and Espenesa.
But, testing will play a big part.
What? Isaiah Simmons is not on your list?
He might end up there, but he's starting from behind - as an Off LB/SS, who isn't elite in man coverage the way Derwin James was at FSU.