What to do with Jake Long?

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  1. Fin_Frenzy_84

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    After this season should we resign him or let him walk?

    Also if you guys were GM who would you resign out of all of our free agents?
     
  2. The Tannehills Have Eyes

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    If he doesn't recover I think we might just have to let him go if he won't take a pay cut. The plus is we will probably have enough money to sign a number 1 WR from FA if we let him go but this guy was the number 1 pick and a perennial pro bowler but has been dropping for quite a while now from injuries.
     
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    First Id make him get a haircut and turn that ****ing hat around.

    After that Id offer him a 3-4 year deal at above average LT money. If he dosent want it......... later bro.

    Resign Hartline, Starks, and S Smith for sure.
     
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    Let em walk and kick martin to LT. We cant lock up joe thomas type money on him he is breaking down, spend the $ on playmakers.
     
  5. Show Me Your TDs

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    Unfortunately he will probably walk after this season. His play has been average at best and I'm not sure he fits the mold of an athletic zone blocking Tackle in Philbin's offense. Special players fit any system but the eyeball doesn't lie.....he is not a cut blocker. Lets hope Martin keeps developing. Its always good to have a backup plan.
     
  6. bcrock

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    Let him walk...unless he agrees to a reasonable contract.
     
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    If he isn't in the future plans, I would much rather get something for him than just let him walk. Maybe a tag and trade?
     
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    Just can't imagine him taking that kind of money. At his best, he's been elite. Unfortunately, I don't think we've seen that for a while now since he's been banged up (shoulder, knee, etc) in the last couple years. I think at 27 he likely thinks he is or can get back to elite and demand that type of money.

    If we want to keep him, we may franchise him one year to see his body comes around, but that rarely seems to happen in the NFL for linemen. No way I sign him long term elite LT money when we have such big needs at play making positions at WR, C, S, and TE.
     
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    tag or re-sign him.... unless you want the fins drafting a LT in the first round .....
     
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    He deserves top tier money. Re-sign your own. Finding LT's are hard to do. Plus, remember he is playing hurt. He easily could have sat with his numerous injuries, but each and every week he suits up and plays hard.

    I would do a deal with him. Tag Smith. Attempt to re-sign Hartline and Starks. Bush I would let play the market.
     
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    agree....100%
     
  12. uk_dolfan

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    Sign him.
     
  13. MrEd

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    Of "COURSE" re-sign him. Wow. If we don't come to an agreement he's getting tagged. Long ain't going nowhere. Of course re-sign Smith and Hartline too. We got space next year.
     
  14. Fin_Frenzy_84

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    Yeah we have space but we also have hartline,bush,starks,long, and smith as key free agents. I see us signing 4 of the 5 but will we have enough for a receiver like Bowe?
     
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    As long as Ireland is here, Jake won't be going anywhere.
     
  16. dolphan8055

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    if we can get an average guy in his place and some offensive or secondary talent with that extra cap im ok with letting him go BUT that is the only way
     
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    give him a good contract but not joe thomas type. thats just too much
     
  18. dolphan8055

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    i have a real real real big feeling that hes going to want some big big money!
     
  19. NYFINest

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    How's C more of a play making position than a LT? Also, pretty sure that's one of the few positions on the team that I wouldn't worry about, Pouncey's been very solid
     
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    Jonathan Martin's natural position is left tackle...you would only need to draft a good right tackle to replace him.

    I don't think you overpay if the guy isn't getting it done...it has to be evaluated. Good teams don't overpay their players, they let them walk.
     
  21. Phantom

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    You do not need an elite LT to win a superbowl, however, you made need a few of those playmaker guys you see on superbowl teams.
     
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    Why would we let him walk when we could have traded him for at least a second round pick? I don't think even Ireland is that dumb.
     
  23. uk_dolfan

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    The people criticizing Long now are the same people who would attack the management for letting him go (remember Vonte?) in a successful team Long could be a hall of fame player. Will he demand big cash? Of course he should and the Dolphins will pay it.
     
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    You keep him, why the hell would you create more holes? He is has not been as good as he was before but let's not create another hole. With Nolan Carrol's resurgence I can see Smith getting let go.
     
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    If he we do lose him to free agency do we get comp picks?
     
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    Jake Long is a cornerstone player that sacrifices heart and soul for his team. Sign him longterm.
     
  27. dolpns13

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    His game is horrible this year. He gave up at least 1 sack (a bad one) and I dont know how many pressures yesterday. If he dosnt improve let him walk.
     
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    LOL.. WHAT!?!

    You talk ablut not creating more holes by letting Long walk, but then go on to suggest letting Smith (tthe best player in our secodary) walk.
     
  29. tcdrover

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    He's playing hurt.

    I would tag him next year and play it by ear.

    AS for losing Bush and Sean Smith, this isn't Madden. They want to keep the players they have and build through the draft. I would make sure to sign Reggie, Starks, Hartline and the majority of the young core players
     
  30. uk_dolfan

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    Horrible? :rolleyes2: Even when not playing his best he is still an elite LT
     
  31. Oraclepz

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    Jake isn't going anywhere. With our cap we take care of our own. We resign Long, Bush, Starks, Hartline and Smith. All those guys are earning their money. Yes maybe jake is having an off year but he deserves the benefit of doubt. We keep building thru the draft.
     
  32. INFINITY 19

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    keep jake and up the talent around him
     
  33. NorFlaFin

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    Give him the 1st round tender and be happy to to get a 1st round round in return when he signs with somebody else.
     
  34. jason_taylor

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    just what i was going to say because if we cant sign him to decent contract then we still have martin that has played LT all through college and imo it wont be as hard to find a RT as much as it would to get a LT, but as far as signing a FA WR we will still have enough money even if we sign Long and the rest of the FAs we have left to sign.

    ---------- Post added at 01:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:11 PM ----------

    sure will.
     
  35. jason_taylor

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    why do we have big needs at C ? we have one of the best young centers in the league in pouncey , imo our most needs are WR , CB and another pass rusher oppsite of wake , and we could use a little bit of an upgrade at S , but imo its not as bad of a need as the other 3 that i mentioned.
     
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    imo we are going to be in control and not in serious trouble if Long dosent take what we offer, the ball is in our cornor to where we can offer a cotract to where we are not having to throw crazy money at Long and our team is getting better and better each week and there will be alot of players wanting to come and play here, because we have finally gotten a franchise QB, we can negociate with Long without panicing and throwing big money out there just because we dont have another option , because we do and we should be able to get a fair deal done with Long.
     
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    He's given up what, at least 4 sacks this year. How about all the penalties he is getting as well this year. He is very far from elite in 2012. He may be elite compared to a Damien McIntosh, or a Wade Smith, but compared to how he is capable of playing, he is playing horrible.
     
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    Cant' say he has been horrible, but no way you pay him top LT money. He has been average (maybe slightly above) even going back to last season. I understand he has been playing hurt but that has become part of his problem, he seems to be hurt constantly. I get that some think we owe him for what he has done in the past but this is a what have you done for me lately league. If he is willing to settle on a fair contract fine, if not you have to do whats best for the team. Like others have said we have Martin in the wings and his natural position is LT, no need to pay Long top money.
     
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    The problem is he seems to be playing hurt alot. Its obviously admirable, but I suspect he's gonna break down bigtime at some point during his next big contract.
     
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    Pay the man, a he might not be top 3 but he is def top 10 in NFL -
    he is a great run blocker - and solid Pass blocker -why make a huge hole in the OL --
    remember what a bad LT looked like back in 2005 - 2006? do we really want too watch that again??
     
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    I hope so...but the reality of the business is you have to evaluate where Jake is in his career...his health, his level of play etc etc etc.....if his demands are not in line with what he brings to the table we are better off moving on.

    I do think that many of you need to realize the scheme of offense we are running now is not exactly a perfect fit for Jake, his value is not as great.
     
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    That's probably the reason they drafted Martin...Use Martin as a bargaining chip saying that he can be moved to LT easily if Long won't accept the Dolphins offer.

    If he signs for an average LT deals, fine...If not, let him walk and move Martin to his natural position.
     
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    He isnt an average LT why would he sign an average LT contract?
     
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    He needs to take a major paycut or I would let him walk. If I was Ireland I would already be starting contract talks with Sean Smith , Reggie Bush and Hartline. I could careless if they keep Long or not. He got paid a lot of money the past few years and has been average at best!
     
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    Resign long and draft more talent on offense and defense, don't make another whole on the line
     
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    Yes but be careful with Reggie as he is already on the limp again - I would secure Jake if the salary is reasonable, but Reggie love him to bits but he can't stay healthy

    Smith is a must with VDs trade, and hopefully may have figured out a few things, and he stays healthy because he keeps his jersey clean
     
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    You would think JL would be reasonable. This franchise took a lot of heat for taking him over MR. He got paid for 1st round pick money before the restructure of draft picks. 100 million he has made from the Fins. Wealth for generations, throw us a bone Jake.
     
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    Sign him ... Period
     
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    Lot of football left to be played...........giving Long the benefit of the doubt, his

    status should be a lot clearer down the road
     
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    I think Vontae proves this point. You don't let Long just walk, period. Not when you could/should get something for him. Ireland has no problem trading and stock piling picks. If Long wasn't in the long term plans for this franchise, he would be else where like Davis/Marshall are today.
     

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