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worst choice in this years draft?

Rilex said:
Man!! Somebody should have told the Bengals that Carson Palmer isn't any good. Hey Arizona, Matt Leinart really sucks! ...the Jaguars should have known better than to draft, let alone start, Maurice Jones-Drew ....and don't even get me started on Reggie Bush!!!! I guess that's what happens when you go up against weak defenders like Troy Polamalu, Hatoli Ngata, Lofa Tatupu, etc. :rofl3:

PS: The SEC doesn't produce any good defenders. They only look good in college because they play a style that has a lot of defense and not a lot of offense.
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good retort:clapping:
 
Well, I guess I'll say it since no one else is brave enough:

Ted Ginn, Jr.

Guys spare me the heartfelt tirades of defending our own team's pick... but let's face it. When we selected Ginn, Jr. there was a collective laughter spread across the nation as even our own faithful screamed "WTF!".

Furthermore, I believe the main motivation for threads like this is to make ourselves feel better or to prove that we didn't make the biggest bonehead pick of the draft.

Every day we've had to hope for great news regarding Ginn, Jr. just to justify or PRAY that it doesn't make us look bad. As I'm sure many of us still get slight ridicule from friends about the pick.

It wasn't that Quinn was or was not the answer.... it's the fact that we have an OBVIOUS disparity at the game's most important position at that point in time and we PASS on selecting a QB at such a premium position in the draft. When nearly EVERY person in America felt the tumblers had fallen sweetly into place for Miami to FINALLY get a top flight QB.

Please spare me the emphatic support of the self-proclaimed geniuses who picked Ginn, Jr. in their own draft projections. A handful of people getting our pick right does not calm the laughs, boos and pained echo heard throughout the NFL world and America when every fan worth his salt dropped his jaw when the pick was announced.

It's not that Quinn WAS the answer. But, when Miami has dire needs at QB, LT and other premium positions.... and STILL picks a WR that we looked like homers on a day when each team has an equal chance to shine.

The Ginn, Jr. pick needed, and still does, discussion to SOOTHE the minds of nearly every Dolphan with in the world. That's not a sign of a collective opinion believing he was a good pick.

At least Buffalo addressed an immediate pressing need.

I don't recall us NEEDING to address an IMMEDIATE need at WR with Booker, Chambers and Hagan shoring up the WRs. I do recall us with a HUGE hole at LT and QB.

And all the maneuvering in the world across our OLine did not solve our BIGGEST problem on the OLine: QUALITY ATHLETES.

Had we REACHED (as some like to call it) for Joe Staley and still picked Satele and Mormino. We would have at least SOLIDIFIED our line with such a stockpile of talent we would not had to worry about starting OLineman for many years to come. Now, as it stands.... we still have issues if Shelton and/or Carey get injured.

Make no mistake, our line is still patchwork. Because we not only lack starting quality players, we lack quality DEPTH.

I don't care about the arguments regarding "reaching for players" or "selecting based on draft value instead of need" or "couldn't trade because of no trade partner". At the end of the day, the problem remained that we had gaping holes at the 2 most critical positions in football and we failed to address either with the #9 pick in the draft.

Staley, Beck, Satele, Mormino, Booker, Solai, and the others... would have also been a very impressive haul. Enough so we would have had a very impressive foundation and core from which to build for many years.

Now, as it stands, Carey HAS to work out at LT, Shelton MUST succeed at RT.... or we don't have many options to fix it if it goes wrong.

Staley gave us options we simply don't have now.

Sad to say, but not addressing LT means our entire offensive success depends on the only decent tackles on our roster living up to complete potential and remaining healthy.

And before you reply, GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT.... I'm not saying Staley was the total answer worth the #9 pick. BUT, NOT addressing the LT OR QB problem with #9 pick (trading up/down, selecting Staley, Quinn, SOMETHING) WAS THE WHOLE PROBLEM.

Selecting a non-need position that already has depth was one of biggest blunders in recent history. I don't care how much PROOF anyone brings to the table..... when the entire NFL laughs at such a high pick... IT'S NOT GOOD. That means even simple minded fans realize the questionability of the pick.
 
Quinn might not be a bad pick down the road, but if he doesn't start, or produce right away, Cleveland is going to riot because they gave up next year's first to get him.

I think you've got to look at the Titans for a lesson on bad picks; changing Cedric Griffen to CB (not good idea) and taking Chris Henry (workout warrior that never produced).

The only picks we made I can see anybody hating on are Ted Ginn (for obvious reasons, but a lot of experts had him going to the Vikings at 7), Regan Mauia 280 lb FB most people never heard of), and Drew Mormino (but he looks like he'll win a starting job).
 
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Rilex said:
PS: The SEC doesn't produce any good defenders. They only look good in college because they play a style that has a lot of defense and not a lot of offense.
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So the conference that produces the most NFL players seems to only produce players on offense huh?

Champ Bailey, Richard Seymour, John Henderson, Marcus Stroud, Derrick Burgess and Lito Sheppard are all Pro Bowl players, does that qualify them as 'good'? What about the other players starting in the NFL such as Kevin Carter, DeMeco Ryans, Leonard Little, Channing Crowder, Marcus Spears, Charles Grant, Anthony McFarland, Al Wilson and dozens of others? No good?

Should we dicuss former defensive players players such as Reggie White, Derrick Thomas, Cornelius Bennett, Wilber Marshall, Leonard Marshall........

Former Dolphins such as AJ Duhe, Bob Baumhower, Tim Bowens............

As far as the original question goes, unfortunately I think drafting a special teams player with the ninth pick of the first round will prove to be a mistake, so my answer is Ted Ginn. (Hope to be wrong here...)
 
Rilex said:
Man!! Somebody should have told the Bengals that Carson Palmer isn't any good. Hey Arizona, Matt Leinart really sucks! ...the Jaguars should have known better than to draft, let alone start, Maurice Jones-Drew ....and don't even get me started on Reggie Bush!!!! I guess that's what happens when you go up against weak defenders like Troy Polamalu, Hatoli Ngata, Lofa Tatupu, etc. :rofl3:

PS: The SEC doesn't produce any good defenders. They only look good in college because they play a style that has a lot of defense and not a lot of offense.
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way fragile
 
NathanHunt said:
Well, I guess I'll say it since no one else is brave enough:

Ted Ginn, Jr.

Guys spare me the heartfelt tirades of defending our own team's pick... but let's face it. When we selected Ginn, Jr. there was a collective laughter spread across the nation as even our own faithful screamed "WTF!".

Furthermore, I believe the main motivation for threads like this is to make ourselves feel better or to prove that we didn't make the biggest bonehead pick of the draft.

Every day we've had to hope for great news regarding Ginn, Jr. just to justify or PRAY that it doesn't make us look bad. As I'm sure many of us still get slight ridicule from friends about the pick.

It wasn't that Quinn was or was not the answer.... it's the fact that we have an OBVIOUS disparity at the game's most important position at that point in time and we PASS on selecting a QB at such a premium position in the draft. When nearly EVERY person in America felt the tumblers had fallen sweetly into place for Miami to FINALLY get a top flight QB.

Please spare me the emphatic support of the self-proclaimed geniuses who picked Ginn, Jr. in their own draft projections. A handful of people getting our pick right does not calm the laughs, boos and pained echo heard throughout the NFL world and America when every fan worth his salt dropped his jaw when the pick was announced.

It's not that Quinn WAS the answer. But, when Miami has dire needs at QB, LT and other premium positions.... and STILL picks a WR that we looked like homers on a day when each team has an equal chance to shine.

The Ginn, Jr. pick needed, and still does, discussion to SOOTHE the minds of nearly every Dolphan with in the world. That's not a sign of a collective opinion believing he was a good pick.

At least Buffalo addressed an immediate pressing need.

I don't recall us NEEDING to address an IMMEDIATE need at WR with Booker, Chambers and Hagan shoring up the WRs. I do recall us with a HUGE hole at LT and QB.

And all the maneuvering in the world across our OLine did not solve our BIGGEST problem on the OLine: QUALITY ATHLETES.

Had we REACHED (as some like to call it) for Joe Staley and still picked Satele and Mormino. We would have at least SOLIDIFIED our line with such a stockpile of talent we would not had to worry about starting OLineman for many years to come. Now, as it stands.... we still have issues if Shelton and/or Carey get injured.

Make no mistake, our line is still patchwork. Because we not only lack starting quality players, we lack quality DEPTH.

I don't care about the arguments regarding "reaching for players" or "selecting based on draft value instead of need" or "couldn't trade because of no trade partner". At the end of the day, the problem remained that we had gaping holes at the 2 most critical positions in football and we failed to address either with the #9 pick in the draft.

Staley, Beck, Satele, Mormino, Booker, Solai, and the others... would have also been a very impressive haul. Enough so we would have had a very impressive foundation and core from which to build for many years.

Now, as it stands, Carey HAS to work out at LT, Shelton MUST succeed at RT.... or we don't have many options to fix it if it goes wrong.

Staley gave us options we simply don't have now.

Sad to say, but not addressing LT means our entire offensive success depends on the only decent tackles on our roster living up to complete potential and remaining healthy.

And before you reply, GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT.... I'm not saying Staley was the total answer worth the #9 pick. BUT, NOT addressing the LT OR QB problem with #9 pick (trading up/down, selecting Staley, Quinn, SOMETHING) WAS THE WHOLE PROBLEM.

Selecting a non-need position that already has depth was one of biggest blunders in recent history. I don't care how much PROOF anyone brings to the table..... when the entire NFL laughs at such a high pick... IT'S NOT GOOD. That means even simple minded fans realize the questionability of the pick.
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Then there's no need for anyone else to reply to this post. It's all set in stone.
 
I think that it is a toss up between the Packers selecting Harrel, because their need was WR and the fact that Bowe and Meachum were there seems surprising. But San Diego takin Craig Davis was a shock to me. I really don't know much about him because he was overshadowed in the media by Bowe, but Anthony Gonzolas, Steve Smith, and Sidney Rice were all there and I think (based on what I know of all three) that those three have more potential than Davis. But who knows its a draft some will be busts some will be HOF's.
 
60% of these 1st rd pick will be a bust. so why are we so mad about ginn pick.if he didnot get hurt he would of been a top 10 pick anyway... db will have to play this guy he is a play maker...if health look for 5 to 6 td this yr...if he didnot go 9 he would of still been of board before quinn??? cameron is right but it sometime take wr 2 to3 yr before they are ready to play as good wr, with punt and kickoff he is on field early to get game time experience..
 
baddraft07 said:
I thought Laudry was the best player but knew we had no chance to get him. I have to say us passing on Quinn and most of the nation agrees with me on that. Also the pick up of Beck .... hoping we would have gotten stanton
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Most of the nation? What nation is that? The Let's All Draft Brady Quinn-Man Crush Bandwagon Nation?

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