We don't know where these guys will be drafted. How many of us had B. Irvin in the Top 15? With this thing, you're assessing values. I like this guy in this range, or I've taken this guy completely off my board, et.
I doubt that even the most avid C. Patterson haters have taken him completely off of their boards. So at some point, you like him. It's probably most constructive to frame conversations in that light.
If you believe Patterson will go sometime in the 1st, but you don't like him at 12 or even in a trade-back scenario, at what point do his attributes make him worth it to you?
I like Trufant a lot at CB. I don't like his value at 12 - when I look at the other players I expect to be there. He's competitive, has very quick feet, has good straight-line speed, and solid size to be a starting NFL CB. While his feet are super quick, sometimes he loses discipline on his footwork, and he plays higher than I like. He gets off-balance at time. I think a lot of that is correctable, but at 12, I don't want a guy who isn't an elite physical talent (like a X. Rhodes) who has those issues. I see Rhodes as a cleaner cover guy with a higher ceiling. I like his value at 12. At 42, Trufant looks awful nice. "But he won't be at 42!" you say. I don't think he'll be there, but I think Trufant has a better chance of being there at 42 than I thought Denareus Moore had at being there at 146 (a spot we would have had if we didn't trade away the pick to Washington).
Anyway, discussing guys like this - to me, anyway - leads to more constructive conversation. I like Player X in ____ range.
Is there anyone here who wouldn't like Patterson in the 3rd (serious question)?