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1972 Fins 2nd best team ever??

I'm surprised that the Steelers weren't ahead of us. I guess the 72' team should have came out with a music video. Maybe then they'd be #1.
 
byroan said:
I'm surprised that the Steelers weren't ahead of us. I guess the 72' team should have came out with a music video. Maybe then they'd be #1.
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God no! Can you picture Manny Fernandez dancing in bell bottom pants or The Zonk trying to look like he's singing
 
the 72' team was the immortalization of the term "football team" they had nothing but hard-nose football players all working very hard to acheive one goal. perfection.

the bears had style, theres no doubting that. they also had the best running back of all time IMO. They were fun. and you can't hate a team that had the fridge on it. you just can't.

the real arguement, the bears played a longer season. but the ironic twist of fate is, they only lost one game, to the dolphins...if it wasn't to miami, i might give it to them, but it was to miami. so thereforem i'd still go with that franchise.
 
Nick Buonticonti has already said that our own 1973 team would have beaten the 1972 team (a more experienced team a year later, even though they lost twice during that season). So I guess that's TWO teams better than the 17-0 squad. :)
 
This doesn't really have to do with who was better, But. Who else thought it was a bunch of BS in that superbowl that they did not let walter payton score the touch down. i mean you have arguably the greatest RB in NFL history and instead you give the ball the big FAT Refridgerator Perry i mean whats up with that.
 
Many of you guys were not born or are to young to remember that in 1972, the merger between the upstart "AFL" and NFL was only 2 years old.

There is still to this day animosity from the old line NFL groups, that a team that had been in existance for only 6 years could do the unheard of and go undefeated 17-0.

Just take a look at the teams that have been annointed over the Dolphins. The Bears & Stealers! Both before the merger were old NFL establishment teams. Even the Pats with their stellar performances of the past few years don't get the respect that an NFC team would have gotten had they done the same.

The Miami Dolphins will be forever disrespected for having the audacity to spit in the old NFLs face and go undefeated.

That disrespect from those types is the very reason that the teammates of the undefeated season, get together after every season since the undefeated one and pop the cork and toast to themselves. They have been doing it for 33 years now. It flys in the face of the old NFL snobs and I love it.
 
How about competition in their respective Superbowls..... I would sure have rather faced the 1985 New England Patriots than the 1972 Washington Redskins.

I don't think there is any way that a legitimate case can be made that the '85 Bears were the greatest team ever.
 
Sure, you can make a case for the Bears but you cannot argue with perfection

Some people do not understand that word... Let me type it the way it is ment to be written...


PERFECTION
 
yankeehillbilly said:
I don't think there is any way that a legitimate case can be made that the '85 Bears were the greatest team ever.
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Your crazy! Of course a legitimate argument can be made for the Bears of '85. In their last three preseason games they won by a margin of 91 to 10. Blanking the Simms led Giants 21-0 and Dickerson led Rams 24-0.

An interesting statement on the '72 Phins is here
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The most common argument for the 1972 Dolphins is that they are the only team not to lose a game. This argument, however, is very simplistic. They played a terrible regular season schedule, teams that combined for a dismal .365 winning percentage. In the playoffs, they played quality opponents, second best record amongst these five teams, but won by the slimmest margin of any of the 20 teams consulted in this study. They won 3 games by a total of 17 points.
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Same author says this about the Bears of 85
1985 Bears

As Aaron noted above, Epstein’s book Dominanceends by naming Chicago the best team of all time over a single season. They were 15-1, losing only that memorable Monday Night game against the 12-4 Dolphins. Their quality of opposition is the second best of the five teams included here ('72 Fins, '85 Bears, '89 49ers, '98 Bronco's, and '04 Pats) although they never beat a team with more than 11 wins. Their playoff margin of victory is the second highest as well and third highest amongst the 20 teams. They won their playoff games by a combined 91-10.
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it's a really interesting site.



Some of Epstien's points from his book about the '85 Bears are here http://espn.go.com/nfl/s/epstein/85bears.html
Since the adoption of the 16-game schedule in 1978, the 1985 Chicago Bears are the only team to score 400 or more points while allowing fewer than 200.




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<li> Led by the great Walter Payton, who ran for 1,551 yards and a 4.8 average per carry, the Bears led the NFL in rushing yardage and were fifth in average yards per carry.


<li> The Bears led the NFC and were fourth in the NFL in average yards per pass attempt. Are you sick of hearing about that stat? Tough.

<li> The Bears led the NFC and were second in the NFL in average yards per completion. Doesn't sound like an ultra-conservative offense to me.

<li> Including their three postseason games, the Bears were outgained in a game just once the entire season.

<li> The Bears' defense forced 54 turnovers, the fifth-highest total since the beginning of the 16-game schedule.

<li> The Monday Night game against the Dolphins on December 2 is still the highest-rated game in the history of Monday Night Football with a 29.6 rating.

<li> Nine members of the '85 Bears were homegrown first-round picks. Five of them played in the Pro Bowl.

<li> The Bears outgained their three playoff opponents by an amazing margin of 1,023 yards to 434.

In the Super Bowl, the Patriots made positive yardage on just one of their first 16 offensive plays.
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Don't get me wrong the '72 Phins were an amazing team (though it would be like USC playing all Ivy League schools for the next few years then calling themselves a dynasty :grin:)

But saying that one can't make a legitimate case for the '85 Bears is at best uninformed and at worst just a stupid remark from someone who doesn't know football.
John Clayton says it well...
Remember that the 1972 undefeated Dolphins also had one of the easiest schedules in NFL history. That doesn't take away the perfection of that team's amazing accomplishment. As coach Don Shula assembles the members of that unbeaten team every year for his champagne toast when the last NFL unbeaten team of the season losses, few remember the schedule.
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/clayton_john/1401758.html
 
1985 Chicago Stats

# Record: 15-1
# Points scored/allowed: 456/198
# Adjusted power index: +7.25
# Opponents' record: 120-120 (.500)*
# Record against teams with winning records: 5-1
# Points scored/allowed against teams with winning records: 180/71

Amazing
 
1972 Fin Stats

# Record: 14-0
# Points scored/allowed: 385/171
# Adjusted power index: +6.63
# Opponents' record: 70-108-4 (.396)*
# Record against teams with winning records: 2-0
# Points scored/allowed against teams with winning records: 43/23

Also amazing...
Remember that Chicago scored more but had more games, that also means though that Chicago's 198 pts. allowed are even more impressive than the '72 Fins.

It's too bad that an undefeated season was tainted by such an easy schedule.
 
There has only been one undefeated team in the NFL EVER. No team has ever been perfect except the dolphins. You can argue stats, you can argue easy schedules. Every team that wins a Super Bowl, the argument can be made...Any given Sunday! The 72 Dolphins won every game. How can that not be the best team ever?
 
I get so sick and tired of the disrespect that undefeated `72 (and the `73 team too) gets from everybody. Nobody seems to care we were the only undefeated team in NFL history, it hasn`t happened since, and it`s highly unlikely that it`s going to happen in todays NFL. One thing that never gets mentioned when people disrespect that `72 season, is Bob Griese went down early in the year against San Diego, and there was no gurantee an old has been like Morrall was going to keep the streak going. People can say what they want...Bears or Steelers were better...we played a weak schedule...blah blah blah...we`ve got one thing nobody has...A PERFECT SEASON!! And that makes the `72 team the best ever. End of argument.
 
Vessel17 said:
It's too bad that an undefeated season was tainted by such an easy schedule.
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I don't feel it was tainted. You have to go out and win the games that are put in front of you. There has only been 1 team who has done that and that team is the 72 MIAMI DOLPHINS. You can argue schedule strength, points, defense, or anything else you'd like. The team went to the Super Bowl the year before the PERFECT season, what else can they do to assure the will have a competitive schedule the next? Wait until the Saturday before the game to decide who the are going to play. They did what no other team has done and constantly get left out of peoples list as to who is the best team ever. :shakeno: Did they need to do it 2 years in a row.?.?
 
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