2nd Rounder for Feeley

[so-long-Ricky]

Wow, there is somebody that thinks that way...:eek:
No, I don't consider it a personal attack to call someone else an idiot. It happens to Dave Wannstedt everyday of the week on this board. Calling you an idiot would be a personal attack. Something which I've never done.

Do I need to break down the word "personal" for you or do you have dictionary.com on your internet?

I could completely care less what you "think" personal attack means or who calls Wanny an idiot. It's irrelevent.

A "personal attack" is an attack against an individual, regardless if it's you, me Wanny, your friends etc. (simple as that). If I call your friends a bunch of idiots.....regardless if I'm directing that comment towards you or them, it's personal.

English 101 is now over.....let's move on.

 

[so-long-Ricky]

I think you're trying to ask for proof that Reid said Feeley would start in 2003 if D-mac went down for more than one game....I think...:hmmm:

If so, it was said, if you want to read it first hand, find it yourself.

I've been working the overnight shift and I'm whipped....so yes, I did mean Feeley.

As for your proof.....I figured as much. I'm not going to waste my time on your unfounded comments.

 

[inFINSible]

I could completely care less what you "think" personal attack means or who calls Wanny an idiot. It's irrelevent.

A "personal attack" is an attack against an individual, regardless if it's you, me Wanny, your friends etc. (simple as that). If I call your friends a bunch of idiots.....regardless if I'm directing that comment towards you or them, it's personal.

English 101 is now over.....let's move on.

You wanna get technical huh....
Me calling your friends idiots is not a violation of the TOS, sorry. Nor is it a personall attack against you....You, with your sarcastic "oh opinionated one" name calling, committed a direct violation of the TOS. But really, I couldn't care less, I'm not into crying about it whenever somebody gets a little lippy with me....so, I agree, let's move on.

 

[inFINSible]

I've been working the overnight shift and I'm whipped....so yes, I did mean Feeley.

As for your proof.....I figured as much. I'm not going to waste my time on your unfounded comments.

Do what you want, I know it's the truth.

 

[finmann]

Yes. The Dolphins would have been better off not making the trade. The team essentially gave up a 2nd round pick for a back-up (assuming he is still 2nd string and doesn't lose out to Rosenfels/Berlin) quaterback. That is ridiculous. A lot of people blamed Wannstedt for not starting him over Fiedler but now Saban is playing him behind Frerotte. So I think it's time for people to stop saying he has the skills and potential and maybe ...just maybe...there's the possibility he isn't a very good NFL quaterback.

I tend to agree with you. I really don't think that Feeley is very good(at this time) he needs more work especially in this system.

 

[LarryFinFan]

Yes. The Dolphins would have been better off not making the trade. The team essentially gave up a 2nd round pick for a back-up (assuming he is still 2nd string and doesn't lose out to Rosenfels/Berlin) quaterback. That is ridiculous. A lot of people blamed Wannstedt for not starting him over Fiedler but now Saban is playing him behind Frerotte. So I think it's time for people to stop saying he has the skills and potential and maybe ...just maybe...there's the possibility he isn't a very good NFL quaterback.

You see, that is just it..MAYBE, JUST MAYBE he does or does not have the potential...we don't know because he hasn't gotten the chance yet....

 

[LarryFinFan]

Your ignorance is shining right now. You're telling me that AJ was 3rd string because Detmer could hold on to the ball for the kicker??

Let me let you in on a little secret.....if DM went out of the game do to injury, Detmer would have replaced him...end of story. If by some miracle they decided to skip Detmer and go right to AJ then no other QB can enter the game since he's 3rd on the depth chart. Reid would not put himself in that position for a "holder".

This board is getting way to hostile lately

OH, and you're right, Detmer DID, in fact replace DM when he went out...the following game, guess who started ??? AJ....

 

[inFINSible]

You see, that is just it..MAYBE, JUST MAYBE he does or does not have the potential...we don't know because he hasn't gotten the chance yet....

I was going to point that out but, I was going to add everybody does it to CTA....cover their ***!!..just in case they turn out to be wrong.

They bash the guy out of the front door but, they leave the back door open for a smooth back pedal escape.

Another one they use is, "at this point in time....".....that's in case we get to another point in time.

 

[PhinBeck]

Your ignorance is shining right now. You're telling me that AJ was 3rd string because Detmer could hold on to the ball for the kicker??

Let me let you in on a little secret.....if DM went out of the game do to injury, Detmer would have replaced him...end of story. If by some miracle they decided to skip Detmer and go right to AJ then no other QB can enter the game since he's 3rd on the depth chart. Reid would not put himself in that position for a "holder".

This board is getting way to hostile lately

LOL, your ignorance is clearly evident. ANDY REID is teh one who SAID it in 2003. Yes in teh intial game Detmer would have replaced DM. That was NEVER the argument. The argument is if DM went out for an extended period, AJ would start the following games. They had Detmer active so he could hold for Akers because he was Akers pick. They have enough confidence in Detmer that he could play the game DM was hurt and then they can keep a qb inactive/emergency, thus freeing an active roster spot for another position. Yes there is a huge debate whether Reid was just saying that or whether it was true, but the fact is that is what was stated. There is no way to prove or disprove that since DM never went out for an extended period. But that was NOT an issue made up on this board.

 

[PhinBeck]

I've been working the overnight shift and I'm whipped....so yes, I did mean Feeley.

As for your proof.....I figured as much. I'm not going to waste my time on your unfounded comments.

Nope it is easier to just stay blind and not have to admit you may have been wrong. Judging based on your comments, you have teh "I am right and I have to be right for my ego" syndrome and wouldnt want to actually read for yourself.

The article was well over 2 years ago, and your implications are that we owe it to you to find it for you, knowing we wont, it allows you to keep your opinion. That is fine, you cling to it. Doesnt make your opinion fact.

 

[mrbman013]

A second rounder for feely was a mistake ,lets get past it and move on.He was a disaster from the wanny and spielman days.Feely will probably end up the 3rd Q B here just like he was with the Eagles.Sage will be the back up .Saban will rid us of feely soon. LETS GO PHINS !

 

[abNORMal]

I just read this entire thread....My opinion: 1) no way Feeley was worth a second round pick (Spielman messed that one up for sure). The argument that there were no other options does not hold water because if there were no other qb options at the time, then you just do not do a deal for the sake of doing a deal...2) I hope I am wrong but, Feeley sucks, I am not saying this because i am some sort of expert. i am saying this because Saban and the coaching staff have seen him in mini-camps, training camp, scrimmages, and preseason games, and they have not seen enough out of AJ for him to unseat Gus? That should tell all of us something about AJ.

I am not trying to bash AJ followers or Guskateers, and I will support whomever Saban, Linehan and Garrett believes deserves to start.

 

[enigmatics]

OH, and you're right, Detmer DID, in fact replace DM when he went out...the following game, guess who started ??? AJ....

AJ started because Detmer got hurt.

 

[abNORMal]

AJ started because Detmer got hurt.

That is what I thought happened, I was not confident enuff to say for sure..

 

[BlueFin]

Ron Wolfe also endorsed AJ Feeley. The point is, anybody can sit here and say what should have been done or what they would have done but, the facts of he time support that AJ feeley was one of the few options that would not only be possible immediate help but, also long term goodness if their gamble paid off.

At least they didn't overpay for Mark Brunnel.

You can't just rewrite history to make it fit what would have been good moves, you have to consider everything that went into the decision. Yes, the end results leave much to be desired but, to sit here and say there were so many other options is just ignoring the facts of the situation.

Oh I agree, the options were limited, I guess my point was I was in favor of a different course at the time.

As an organization they had to decide whether they were going to rebuild this team or try to patch it up and do the best they could with what they had to work with, I didn't see this team going anywhere the way it was headed so I favored a more patient approach which would have included the ouster of the past regime a year earlier.

I don't think I was alone in feeling that way.

I have been one calling for drafting a new quarterback going back to the JJ years as Marino's career was nearing the end.

It just seemed like they never wanted to take a shot at finding a young quarterback in the draft, even in the mid to later rounds.

But to stay on subject, I do feel the past regime had a tendency to be short sighted and over-zealous in mortgaging the future for the current season, and it didn't start with the AJ Feeley trade.