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A Little Tannehill Perspective...

NY8123 said:
Unreal, a guy with legit ties to the NFL, who goes out of his way to stop by and post, just weighs in and reports what the overall feel is within the league and every armchair GM we have who want Tannehill to suck blasts the post.
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Don't worry, I'm sure Wallace17Miami will be along shortly to give you a thumbs down.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
I can only remember this staff running one naked bootleg, ever -- that was last season. It resulted in a touchdown. We were terrible on 3rd or 4th and short this year. We did not call any bootlegs in those situations. That's one of my major gripes with the coaching staff.
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My gripe with the coaching staff is that they didn't alter their play calling enough for the opponent or the situation. Fourth down fullback dive by Clay into a stuffed RT and a F'n RG (Jerry) who was falling on this face blocking nobody? WTF? Sherman, do you not watch your own team? I swear to God, he is up in the booth saying.... "well this play worked 15 years ago in GB, let's run it"
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
My gripe with the coaching staff is that they didn't alter their play calling enough for the opponent or the situation. Fourth down fullback dive by Clay into a stuffed RT and a F'n RG (Jerry) who was falling on this face blocking nobody? WTF? Sherman, do you not watch your own team? I swear to God, he is up in the booth saying.... "well this play worked 15 years ago in GB, let's run it"
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I kinda think the problem is more the way the offense is designed rather than the calls. I've said it before, but it feels like our offense is basically "ask your 2nd year QB to throw fastballs through moving 10 inch windows."

Even the Patriots run lots of rub and pick plays to help Tom Brady get clean looks on open guys. We don't even motion Mike Wallace to get him off of press coverage. It's bizarre.
 
miami showed too many tendencies in short yardage and went to the same well too much...teams have been ready for that fb dive with clay back there no less since like week 6 when it worked a few times prior...you cannot just run the same damn stuff and honestly with this oline in short yardage and goalline going back to the rb or the backfield and handing it off was a joke...all season...they just ate us up...how many times did we freaking fail to convert a 3rd or 4th and the football this year when we had a 230 lb 6 ft4 athlete qb who could have sneaked for it???

i stopped counting...way too many of the same tendencies in certain situations...\

one thing about pick plays and wr screens your wrs have to know how to execute em...hartlines an awful screen blocking wr and well we didn't run any picks really to get guys clean looks cause the oc again is a dinosaur...

sherman was handcuffed with personnel up front but he could have done much more...as such he should walk the plank
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
I kinda think the problem is more the way the offense is designed rather than the calls. I've said it before, but it feels like our offense is basically "ask your 2nd year QB to throw fastballs through moving 10 inch windows."

Even the Patriots run lots of rub and pick plays to help Tom Brady get clean looks on open guys. We don't even motion Mike Wallace to get him off of press coverage. It's bizarre.
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I have never seen a team have so much trouble getting guys open as the Dolphins.

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hooshoops said:
miami showed too many tendencies in short yardage and went to the same well too much...teams have been ready for that fb dive with clay back there no less since like week 6 when it worked a few times prior...you cannot just run the same damn stuff and honestly with this oline in short yardage and goalline going back to the rb or the backfield and handing it off was a joke...all season...they just ate us up...how many times did we freaking fail to convert a 3rd or 4th and the football this year when we had a 230 lb 6 ft4 athlete qb who could have sneaked for it???

i stopped counting...way too many of the same tendencies in certain situations...\

one thing about pick plays and wr screens your wrs have to know how to execute em...hartlines an awful screen blocking wr and well we didn't run any picks really to get guys clean looks cause the oc again is a dinosaur...

sherman was handcuffed with personnel up front but he could have done much more...as such he should walk the plank
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I agree, but John Jerry falling on his face?????? Fuuuuuccccccckkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!! He moved forward at the snap and shot through the gap and FELL ON HIS FACE. He didn't touch either DL across from him.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
I have never seen a team have so much trouble getting guys open as the Dolphins
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On that sequence where Tannehill slid just short of the first down, did you see the throw he made to Marlon Moore? That was a GREAT throw. The defender was draped all over him.

Why the **** does our offense consistently ask our quarterback to move the ball by throwing frozen ropes to special teamers with DBs draped all over them?
 
Co sign. Rub routes and moving a guy around creates mistakes from the defense. Every fuking week same chit Wallace lines up on the right. A defense has a fuking week to prepare for the same chit. If we moved him around put him in the slot, motion left motion right maybe show some creativity we would of scored more.
 
Thanks for the great post GMD.

I would like your opinion on something. Was listening to an ex QB whos and analyst now, (cant remember who it was)...but he talked about how the poor line play infront of Tannehill, could actually end up making him a better QB in the long run, because he has has to adjust and learn to make reads much quicker...given the lack of time he has. That if they got a good line in front of him...things would slow wayyyy down for him. Kinda like...swinging a weighted bat before your turn at plate. Bat speed seems quicker when you take the donut off. Would you agree with this sentiment?
 
vt_dolfan said:
Thanks for the great post GMD.

I would like your opinion on something. Was listening to an ex QB whos and analyst now, (cant remember who it was)...but he talked about how the poor line play infront of Tannehill, could actually end up making him a better QB in the long run, because he has has to adjust and learn to make reads much quicker...given the lack of time he has. That if they got a good line in front of him...things would slow wayyyy down for him. Kinda like...swinging a weighted bat before your turn at plate. Bat speed seems quicker when you take the donut off. Would you agree with this sentiment?
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Could be something to that, same as having Hartline and Bess as his one and two wrs last year, they would have shrunk the target area for him. Its like learning to play golf to really small landing areas, its only going to help you when you get on courses with bigger landing areas.
 
Ilovemyfins4eva said:
since we drafted tannehill, u need to understand, its ok for fans to claim he is our franchise qb or he will be elite, but he can never be blamed for anything on this team.

hes not the reason we only scored 7 pts in 2 games on offense, sherman is and the o line is,and everyone else is but him.
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Good to see you figured it out.
 
I am as disappointed as everyone else in the last two games but honestly, if you think Tannehill won't be the starter next year you will be deeply disappointed when he is. He has flashed way to much potential to be replaced and if you don't see that potential, I doubt you know much about the QB position and the development of that talent.

Creating silly names for him is a pretty good measuring stick for that lack of knowledge and displays a pretty strong lack of emotional maturity. I suggest you accept the inevitable and save yourself a lot of grief.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
On that sequence where Tannehill slid just short of the first down, did you see the throw he made to Marlon Moore? That was a GREAT throw. The defender was draped all over him.

Why the **** does our offense consistently ask our quarterback to move the ball by throwing frozen ropes to special teamers with DBs draped all over them?
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I know exactly which play you are talking about. I was screaming at the TV - "why do we NEVER have open receivers!!!"
 
getting on the qb for sliding a half yard short of the stick on 3rd and damn 20 when defenders were converging is crazy...would not have been an issue at all had we just snuck the qb in one of the guard gaps on the 4th and a football...

but since it didn't work bang the qb i guess...
 
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