A more realistic thought on the browns game

[Tureo]

Henne is neither the problem or the solution but it's not his fault.

 

[bastid]

And BTW, as you should have noticed if you were realistic, making a positive thread doesnt make it realistic. Crappy title IMO.

It is realistic. And how in the world is this a positive thread? Fail.

 

[Sirspud]

Joe Haden made a nice play on that ball to Marshall. That would have been a tough catch. Much tougher than the one against Houston which still would have been tough. Marshall has been disappointing at times, but that play was not one of them. Haden was all over him and made that a very hard pass to catch.

Personally, I'm disappointed that Marshall was being focused on in the red zone, with the way Haden had played all day. Even though Marshall has the size, all Henne can complete in the red zone is a one cut route anyway and every Dolphin receiver has shown the capability of making that one cut.

 

[bastid]

Ive only seen a couple people mention Sean Smiths name the rest blame it on Henne for some reason. If Sean had half a brain he could have atleast swatted that pass. Instead he watches his WR catch it for a TD. Smith is 6'4 or whatever and plays like hes 5'3.

 

[tylerdolphin]

It is realistic. And how in the world is this a positive thread? Fail.

You posted a huge thread about our problems and neglected to mention Henne or our HC. Thats positive to the 18th power.

 

[Sirspud]

Ive only seen a couple people mention Sean Smiths name the rest blame it on Henne for some reason. If Sean had half a brain he could have atleast swatted that pass. Instead he watches his WR catch it for a TD. Smith is 6'4 or whatever and plays like hes 5'3.

My hate list features 1)Henne 2)Sean Smith. While there are always some that come out of the woodwork, I know not many here are gonna sing the praises of Smith today. Just like Henne finds a way to not score after nearly every good drive, Smith finds a way to be completely beaten for a big play every week.

 

[bastid]

You posted a huge thread about our problems and neglected to mention Henne or our HC. Thats positive to the 18th power.

I neglected Henne and the HC? Ive already stated Henne had a couple bad plays and decisions and also stated the playcalling was horrendous. I also stated the techniques are bad which goes back to coaching. I think I addressed that. But you can't sit here and tell me Henne lost the game. Sean Smith, Nolan Carroll our pass protection and Reggie Bush lost us this game. Its a team loss but before you blame Henne for it ALL like you are theres more glaring issues that him. How many times did he march us down just for a lineman to get called for a hold or for Bush to fumble or run into the back of our oline. Ive backed my opinion by facts in the game, you back your facts on the final drive. Last I recalled we play 4 quarters not one drive. Ive said this before, if Carpenter makes that FG, if Marshall catches that TD if Reggie doesnt fumble we win. If Henne got a first down on the last drive we stood a chance to win. You single Henne out even though he was doing work. You fail to ignore the big plays given up by the nuggets on our defense. If we had a D that was worth anything we'd be sitting here chatting about how good our O looked. I also addressed the bright spots too.

 

[armyphin]

You posted a huge thread about our problems and neglected to mention Henne or our HC. Thats positive to the 18th power.

Already have a few hundred posts on those guys. The rest of the team deserves some attention for their spectacular performances as well.

 

[PerfectFinz72]

I dont care how perfect he was...he failed in the most critical situation. And btw, had another lousy 4th quarter overall as well. Theres no reason to defend him anymore. He looks better than he has in recent years but hes still just NOT good enough unless you have a great defense and a big time running game. They have neither of those things right now.

 

[tylerdolphin]

I neglected Henne and the HC? Ive already stated Henne had a couple bad plays and decisions and also stated the playcalling was horrendous. I also stated the techniques are bad which goes back to coaching. I think I addressed that. But you can't sit here and tell me Henne lost the game. Sean Smith, Nolan Carroll our pass protection and Reggie Bush lost us this game. Its a team loss but before you blame Henne for it ALL like you are theres more glaring issues that him. How many times did he march us down just for a lineman to get called for a hold or for Bush to fumble or run into the back of our oline. Ive backed my opinion by facts in the game, you back your facts on the final drive. Last I recalled we play 4 quarters not one drive. Ive said this before, if Carpenter makes that FG, if Marshall catches that TD if Reggie doesnt fumble we win. If Henne got a first down on the last drive we stood a chance to win. You single Henne out even though he was doing work. You fail to ignore the big plays given up by the nuggets on our defense. If we had a D that was worth anything we'd be sitting here chatting about how good our O looked. I also addressed the bright spots too.

He didnt lose the game, but we scored 16 ****ing points. He sure as **** isnt anything special. Our offense just doesnt score. Same **** as last year. We stall in the RZ. We can hire OCs from now till the cows come home and NONE of them will chance the fact that Henne is total garbage inside the 20. Look at the points. We have the receivers, we have a good RB, but we hit a wall in the RZ every ****ing time. At some point, after multiple OCs, you have to look and say that maybe Henne is the problem. We are averaging 17.6 PPG while most teams are going gangbusters on points. Whats the deal? We dumped Henning. The Henne thing is like the Sparano thing a few weeks ago...people just hanging on despite the obvious.

 

[bastid]

Sigh, its no use to even post here anymore. Too many of you have tunnel vision. Everyone points the finger at a couple of people and I guess other players have a get out of jail free card or something. Comeon now... I give credit where its due but damn this gets old. Its Henne this, Henne that. But never do I hear the D being called out. Why is this? Oh I forgot, according to some of you we have a top 5 D. Man our D looks sharp out there. Im glad we have Carroll starting hes the best shutdown corner in the league </sarcasm>

 

[ForksPhin]

The thing I wonder is what happened to the 'disciplined' team that sparano had in his first year. First in the league in least amount of penalties. Now im sure were close to the top in most pentalities

That team had a real leader at QB...Chad Pennington. The team played for that guy. He proved he could win games. He proved that the team could rely on him in the 4th quarter of games if the rest of the team kept it close. There was "discipline" because it was a new regime with Parcells that came in, instilled a little fear, brought in a winning QB, had a coach that tried an innovative offensive set. Everyone bought in.

Now, Parcells bailed. Sparano has shown he can't lead the team to wins without Chad Pennington at QB. The team quit on him two years in a row. The owner basically quit on him. Who is there to instill discipline?

 

[tylerdolphin]

Sigh, its no use to even post here anymore. Too many of you have tunnel vision. Everyone points the finger at a couple of people and I guess other players have a get out of jail free card or something. Comeon now... I give credit where its due but damn this gets old. Its Henne this, Henne that. But never do I hear the D being called out. Why is this? Oh I forgot, according to some of you we have a top 5 D. Man our D looks sharp out there. Im glad we have Carroll starting hes the best shutdown corner in the league </sarcasm>

The ****? There have been 9823572398572w97 threads the past few weeks about how much our D blows. They suck. So does our 17PPG offense. So does our ST. Basically the team as a whole is hot garbage.

 

[bastid]

He didnt lose the game, but we scored 16 ****ing points. He sure as **** isnt anything special. Our offense just doesnt score. Same **** as last year. We stall in the RZ. We can hire OCs from now till the cows come home and NONE of them will chance the fact that Henne is total garbage inside the 20. Look at the points. We have the receivers, we have a good RB, but we hit a wall in the RZ every ****ing time. At some point, after multiple OCs, you have to look and say that maybe Henne is the problem. The Henne thing is like the Sparano thing a few weeks ago...people just hanging on despite the obvious.

Thats what im trying to say. Henne is no Marino. Henne isnt GREAT but hes average. Yes he had opportunities to score, but the D also had opprotunities to stop the browns. Henne was efficient for the most part of the game up until the 4th. Its a bad comparison but you can compare him to Lebron. Disappears in the 4th. But when this said QB is driving us and a WR drops a pass in the endzone or your 'prized' free agent pick up coughs the ball up and hurts us more than anything in the run game how is that his fault. Or our cornfed inbred Olineman can't block its hard to do anything. Henne has room to improve yes, but he wasn't HORRIBLE. And like another poster pointed out on that last drive he got pressured on 3rd and 4th. Thats O-line breakdown. Its hard for ANY QB to throw when theres 2 people in your backfield on a 3 and 5 step drop. Not even Brady will do ****.

 

[tylerdolphin]

Thats what im trying to say. Henne is no Marino. Henne isnt GREAT but hes average. Yes he had opportunities to score, but the D also had opprotunities to stop the browns. Henne was efficient for the most part of the game up until the 4th. Its a bad comparison but you can compare him to Lebron. Disappears in the 4th. But when this said QB is driving us and a WR drops a pass in the endzone or your 'prized' free agent pick up coughs the ball up and hurts us more than anything in the run game how is that his fault. Or our cornfed inbred Olineman can't block its hard to do anything. Henne has room to improve yes, but he wasn't HORRIBLE. And like another poster pointed out on that last drive he got pressured on 3rd and 4th. Thats O-line breakdown. Its hard for ANY QB to throw when theres 2 people in your backfield on a 3 and 5 step drop. Not even Brady will do ****.

Brady doesnt score 16 points when he is in the redzone 3 times. Brady doesnt go 3 and out when he needs 10 yards to get in FG range. Henne is a PART of the problem. Not the only one, but he is a part. We need to draft a QB with out top 3 pick if we have any intention of ever winning anything of significance.