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A Psych insight into J. Martin

Wrong. When someone files a personal injury lawsuit, the burden is on that person to prove the injury, and whatever emotional injury is argued Martin has suffered will be the key component of such a trial. At that point the medical records that support (or fail to support) such an injury would become front and center, as well as public information.

Wrong. They will call the provider to testify. If medical records are presented in court, it's because the person signed a release stating that they are OK with their attorneys using them as evidence. The courts will never forcefully open someone's medical records unless someone's physical safety is at risk. I'm a ****ing clinical psychologist. I know what I'm talking about. Stop arguing about **** you know nothing about...
 
Wrong. They will call the provider to testify. If medical records are presented in court, it's because the person signed a release stating that they are OK with their attorneys using them as evidence. The courts will never forcefully open someone's medical records unless someone's physical safety is at risk. I'm a ****ing clinical psychologist. I know what I'm talking about. Stop arguing about **** you know nothing about...

How would he argue about anything on this board if he stuck only to topics he's knowledgeable about?
 
Wrong. They will call the provider to testify. If medical records are presented in court, it's because the person signed a release stating that they are OK with their attorneys using them as evidence. The courts will never forcefully open someone's medical records unless someone's physical safety is at risk. I'm a ****ing clinical psychologist. I know what I'm talking about. Stop arguing about **** you know nothing about...
Let me know when you become a Forensic Psychologist. :)

Psychologists may object to being placed in situations in which they must divulge confidential information and may claim that the psychologist-client relationship is a confidential one. However, this objection holds little weight when the client has signed a proper waiver or a court orders the psychologist to testify or produce documents....

Ultimately, if all else fails and the psychologist is required to testify by a judge's court order, the psychologist may attempt to only answer questions that pertain to the facts of the case that have already been considered and documented in the client's chart. The client's attorney should be coached regarding this. As for the defending, opposing attorney (cross examiner), there is little that can be controlled in terms of the line of questioning. However, the psychologist is advised whenever possible to resist offering opinions about new documents, findings previously unknown to the psychologist, hypothetical situations, and judgments about other practitioners' reports. The psychologist should state the reasons for not offering these opinions, such as the reasons offered in the present article. If a judge is presiding over testimony, the judge may override the psychologist's resistance by compelling the production of the requested opinions. However, at least the psychologist will have made a good faith effort to protect the client and to follow ethical and professional guidelines.
http://www.practiceshapers.com/psychologists-are-not-expert-witnesses.htm
 

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Whatever you say man. Your "knowledge" regarding this stuff tells me all I need to know about your career as a "forensic psychologist".

All that link talks about is forcing a psychologist to testify. Which is what I've already said. And the only documents they would be forced to provide would be ones showing intent to harm someone else. Unless its postmortem, then the rules become a little tricky since the person obviously can't sign a release letting the court access their information. I'm right, you're wrong. Shut the **** up about stuff you obviously are clueless about and move on...
 
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Whatever you say man. Your "knowledge" regarding this stuff tells me all I need to know about your career as a "forensic psychologist".

All that link talks about is forcing a psychologist to testify. Which is what I've already said. And the only documents they would be forced to provide would be ones showing intent to harm someone else. Unless its postmortem, then the rules become a little tricky since the person obviously can't sign a release letting the court access their information. I'm right, you're wrong. Shut the **** up about stuff you obviously are clueless about and move on...
Well, believe what you'd like, but the judge can order the witness (including the treating professional) to disclose whatever the judge wants, and in a personal injury case, you can bet that would be information regarding the mental and emotional condition of the plaintiff, if for some reason that evidence wasn't forthcoming. :up:

On top of that, no personal injury plaintiff would expect to win a case centering on emotional damages without making his or her mental and emotional condition part of the evidence, and so a court order would very likely not even be needed in a case like this, assuming it eventually goes to trial as a personal injury case. :)
 
Well, believe what you'd like, but the judge can order the witness (including the treating professional) to disclose whatever the judge wants, and in a personal injury case, you can bet that would be information regarding the mental and emotional condition of the plaintiff, if for some reason that evidence wasn't forthcoming. :up:

On top of that, no personal injury plaintiff would expect to win a case without making his or her mental and emotional condition part of the evidence, and so a court order would very likely not even be needed in a case like this, assuming it eventually goes to trial as a personal injury case. :)

You're completely changing your tune now that I called you out on your bull****. When testifying, yes the provider could provide that information. Not all of it, but what was deemed absolutely necessary for the proceedings. And yes, the plaintiff would probably sign a release on that information. But that's different than you saying the courts would order that information be divulged. They wouldn't. Ever. Changing your argument now doesn't make you right.

And I'd put money on you not being a forensic psychologist. You have no clue on basic aspects of the field that a forensic psychologist, a profession that spends a huge amount of time in court, would know...
 
You're completely changing your tune now that I called you out on your bull****. When testifying, yes the provider could provide that information. Not all of it, but what was deemed absolutely necessary for the proceedings. And yes, the plaintiff would probably sign a release on that information. But that's different than you saying the courts would order that information be divulged. They wouldn't. Ever. Changing your argument now doesn't make you right.

And I'd put money on you not being a forensic psychologist. You have no clue on basic aspects of the field that a forensic psychologist, a profession that spends a huge amount of time in court, would know...
I'm not changing any "tune." The court can order whatever it wants, period, which is what I've said from the beginning. :up:
 
You're completely changing your tune now that I called you out on your bull****. When testifying, yes the provider could provide that information. Not all of it, but what was deemed absolutely necessary for the proceedings. And yes, the plaintiff would probably sign a release on that information. But that's different than you saying the courts would order that information be divulged. They wouldn't. Ever. Changing your argument now doesn't make you right.

And I'd put money on you not being a forensic psychologist. You have no clue on basic aspects of the field that a forensic psychologist, a profession that spends a huge amount of time in court, would know...

He has no clue to the basic aspects of statistics but that doesn't stop him from thinking he's R A Fisher
 
I'm not changing any "tune." The court can order whatever it wants, period, which is what I've said from the beginning. :up:

Technically, I guess that may be true. But if some retard judge ordered me to disclose confidential information on one of my clients that's unrelated to protecting someone's physical safety, I'd contact whatever court is higher up the food chain right away and protest the blatant HIPAA violation. Then the initial judge would have to prove to the the higher court that someone's physical safety is in imminent jeopardy and that by obtaining these records, they would be saving that person's life. You're still wrong, but you're trying to make yourself sound right on technicalities. Admit you're clueless and move on...
 
The only psych eval that would have any meaning in this case would be that of Jonas mother and I got one for you. "Over protective greedy bitch".
 
I had no idea we had so many doctors posting here. :rolleyes2:

The OP has made a most amazing diagnosis based upon speculative conclusions drawn from non-professional opinions and interpretations of circumstantial and/or hearsay evidence. Pin a caduceus medal on that guy!

There's an expression used in the medical profession: don't look for zebras. This refers to someone arriving at a very remote medical diagnosis when a much more common diagnosis is more likely. Martin complained that he felt bullied. The behaviors he's exhibited are consistent with someone who felt bullied.
 
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