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Hickey loves his safeties...Ward. but Shazier would be amazing!
I understand that, but I don't think people appreciate the skill set we're talking about with this player. We're talking about a guy who has a really good chance of being the top player at either 4-3 WLB or 3-4 WILB, and if needed, I think he can also play and excel at MIKE. The WLB in our D is a very productive position - guys are in position to make a lot of plays. In the same scheme (more or less) in Cincinnati, Vontaze Burfict led the NFL in tackling; he also had 3 sacks, a FF, and an INT. Wheeler was easy to spot as terrible (very early), because he was in position to make so many plays. You put a headhunter like Ryan Shazier in that spot, it changes our D. Mosley is fine, but I'd rather keep Ellerbe at MLB - MLB seems to be a much less productive position in this D. And Ryan Shazier is a much better prospect than Mosley, imo. Faster, stronger, more explosive, productive, and dynamic by just about any measure.
I agree with most of this, but Shazier isn't a top-10 or 15 pick point blank.
Houston is taking Clowney/Bortles, Rams with Robinson, Jags either Manziel or Bridgewater, Browns-Watkins, Raiders probably Matthews to play RT, Falcons may trade up and pick Clowney, TB is taking Evans, Minnesota wants a QB but need more of a traditional MLB (Mosley), Buffalo would be perfect for Ebron unfortunately or Mack, Detroits secondary is horrid either HaHa or Gilbert, Titans lost Verner and will be looking for his replacement(Dennard/Gilbert) or Barr, Giants O-Line is horrid also Lewan, Rams could go anywhere but they're set at LB, Bears are taking Donald, Steelers are taking Dennard, Cowboy would be perfect for Barr, Ravens either HaHa/Pryor or Martin, Jets are going Ebron if he falls or Lee/Beckham Jr, and Shazier should fall to us.
After two major FA signings at DT, I do not see the pick being on the DL.
I think the "surprise" could be the pick being a LB and not a RT or OG.
If Ebron is there, that obviously that could be the pick.
I agree with most of this, but Shazier isn't a top-10 or 15 pick point blank.
Houston is taking Clowney/Bortles, Rams with Robinson, Jags either Manziel or Bridgewater, Browns-Watkins, Raiders probably Matthews to play RT, Falcons may trade up and pick Clowney, TB is taking Evans, Minnesota wants a QB but need more of a traditional MLB (Mosley), Buffalo would be perfect for Ebron unfortunately or Mack, Detroits secondary is horrid either HaHa or Gilbert, Titans lost Verner and will be looking for his replacement(Dennard/Gilbert) or Barr, Giants O-Line is horrid also Lewan, Rams could go anywhere but they're set at LB, Bears are taking Donald, Steelers are taking Dennard, Cowboy would be perfect for Barr, Ravens either HaHa/Pryor or Martin, Jets are going Ebron if he falls or Lee/Beckham Jr, and Shazier should fall to us.
He's got the frame for it....as I said food for thought grouch.
I don't see how the Cowboys would be perfect for Barr - given that he's best suited as a 3-4 OLB. I think TB would prefer a WR with a more complimentary skill set to Jackson. Very similar players. The bigger issue is that these are your fits based on a bunch of mocks/big boards. And that's fine, but the draft never completely plays to expectations. Shazier at 8 would be much less of a surprise than Bruce Irvin at 15. Shazier is also better than almost every one of the players you listed going before him.
After two major FA signings at DT, I do not see the pick being on the DL.
I think the "surprise" could be the pick being a LB and not a RT or OG.
If Ebron is there, that obviously that could be the pick.