DeDolfan
Practice Squad
So then you must be saying that we were planning on our D to make the winning score??
Sounds like some flawed logic there!!
About not trying to score: Wanny / Players Back Decision
- Thread starter Chambers34Phins
- Start date
So then you must be saying that we were planning on our D to make the winning score??
Sounds like some flawed logic there!!
xiidaen
FinHeaven.com Evangelist
I'm not saying the media has all the answers, but:
From the Herald:
"We were going to take it to overtime," Wannstedt said. "I was not going to take a chance of throwing the ball and having to punt into the wind and then give them the ball at the 50-yard line."
His strategy proved smart. Lewis bobbled a handoff in overtime, and Zach Thomas wrestled the ball away from him at the Baltimore 33. Three plays later, Mare made his third field goal of the day.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/football/7278254.htm
And from the Sun-Sentinel:
What game were these people watching?
Sure, they wanted the Dolphins to attempt a drive for a winning field goal. To accomplish that end, the Dolphins would have needed to drive 50 yards against this Ravens defense, into a good wind, with a quarterback having a bad day and four linemen (Wade Smith, Billy Yates, Seth McKinney and Greg Jerman) who don't exactly inspire trust.
Overcome all that, and you get a chance to kick a field goal from the exact spot Olindo Mare missed from a few minutes earlier.
Do you know how many 50-yard drives the Dolphins had on Sunday? Zero.
Do you know how many times they drove 40 yards? Zero.
Do you know the collective football intelligence of people booing Wannstedt for running out the clock instead of being "bold" and "aggressive" and "playing to win?"
Thank you.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...v17,0,7633615.column?coll=sfla-dolphins-front
From the Herald:
"We were going to take it to overtime," Wannstedt said. "I was not going to take a chance of throwing the ball and having to punt into the wind and then give them the ball at the 50-yard line."
His strategy proved smart. Lewis bobbled a handoff in overtime, and Zach Thomas wrestled the ball away from him at the Baltimore 33. Three plays later, Mare made his third field goal of the day.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/football/7278254.htm
And from the Sun-Sentinel:
What game were these people watching?
Sure, they wanted the Dolphins to attempt a drive for a winning field goal. To accomplish that end, the Dolphins would have needed to drive 50 yards against this Ravens defense, into a good wind, with a quarterback having a bad day and four linemen (Wade Smith, Billy Yates, Seth McKinney and Greg Jerman) who don't exactly inspire trust.
Overcome all that, and you get a chance to kick a field goal from the exact spot Olindo Mare missed from a few minutes earlier.
Do you know how many 50-yard drives the Dolphins had on Sunday? Zero.
Do you know how many times they drove 40 yards? Zero.
Do you know the collective football intelligence of people booing Wannstedt for running out the clock instead of being "bold" and "aggressive" and "playing to win?"
Thank you.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...v17,0,7633615.column?coll=sfla-dolphins-front
xiidaen
FinHeaven.com Evangelist
ROFLMAO!
PhinstiGator
Hungry For A Championship
Originally posted by DeDolfan
So then you must be saying that we were planning on our D to make the winning score??
Sounds like some flawed logic there!!
Flawed logic? No...playing a field position game that would put us in position to make the winning field goal. Where's the flaw?
The flaw would have been for us to try to do something in the last 50 seconds that we could not do in the entire game. The flaw would have been to panick because of the clock. The flaw would have been to place the team in a position where they could have made a costly mistake.
And the bottom line is that when Zach dug deep underneath that pile, he came up with the possession...Ricky got us closer...and Mare sealed the win through the goal posts.
Defense, field position, the running game and scoring more points than the other team...that's our strength.
DeDolfan
Practice Squad
Smart???? Com'on on now, look at it the way it was. Wannstedt was a lucky SOB that it didn't come back and bite him in the *** [again].
They were already in FG range when Balt fumbled. They may have gone far enough for the winning kick. Like I said earlier, it was not a smart decision, he dodged a bullet. Just because the players said it was smart doesn't mean that it was. What do you think they would be saying if it backfired?
DeDolfan
Practice Squad
If that was the case, what on earth would make them think that they could do it in overtime then???
xiidaen
FinHeaven.com Evangelist
If by 'they' you mean the Ravens, that's incorrect, the fumble was at the Raven 33.
Otherwise, I don't know what you mean, the turnover in Ravens territory supports and confirms DW's decision, not the other way around.
Of course, if the Ravens had put together an 89 yard drive (they started at their 11) then we would have lost, but again, the Ravens didn't have a drive like that all game either. This was a game dominated by the defense. DW recognized that and played accordingly. He made the correct decision, and we won. While I can understand some people blaming him if we lost (though I still think the decision would have been the right one), I can't understand why people blame him for making the right choice when we won. Seems a bit unreasonable to me.
Chambers34Phins
Practice Squad
No, it's quitting while your ahead on the slots, and then going to a different game.
End of Regulation:
BG - 12/29 for 109 Yards
RW - 30 for 79 Yards
TM - 5 for 30 Yards
WE HAD 218 YARDS AT THE END OF REGULATION
WE HAD 209 YARDS UP TO THE FINAL :51 SECONDS IN THE FOURTH (RW ran twice for 9 yards to close regulation)
Do you really think that we could drive the ball 50+ Yards on the Baltimores defense in :51 Seconds? It took us 59:09 to gain 209 yards!!!!
We had been unable to move the ball consistently all game!
Our Series broken down :
Plays - Yards - Result
7 - 13 - Punt
11 - 34 - Punt
7 - 18 - Field Goal
9 - 28 - Punt
2 - 26 - Half
9 - 38 - Punt
4 - (-1) - Punt
9 - 47 - Field Goal (2 penalties for 28 yards)
4 - 1 - Punt
6 - 13 - Interception
8 - 23 - Missed Field Goal
2 - 9 - End of Regulation
If we had been aggressive and tried to push the ball down field during the final :51 seconds and had a miscue (INT or Fumble), ALL of us would have been calling for his head at the end of the game.
Conventional wisdom was run out the clock and go in to overtime.
Be happy - IT worked - WE WON!!!!!
BG - 12/29 for 109 Yards
RW - 30 for 79 Yards
TM - 5 for 30 Yards
WE HAD 218 YARDS AT THE END OF REGULATION
WE HAD 209 YARDS UP TO THE FINAL :51 SECONDS IN THE FOURTH (RW ran twice for 9 yards to close regulation)
Do you really think that we could drive the ball 50+ Yards on the Baltimores defense in :51 Seconds? It took us 59:09 to gain 209 yards!!!!
We had been unable to move the ball consistently all game!
Our Series broken down :
Plays - Yards - Result
7 - 13 - Punt
11 - 34 - Punt
7 - 18 - Field Goal
9 - 28 - Punt
2 - 26 - Half
9 - 38 - Punt
4 - (-1) - Punt
9 - 47 - Field Goal (2 penalties for 28 yards)
4 - 1 - Punt
6 - 13 - Interception
8 - 23 - Missed Field Goal
2 - 9 - End of Regulation
If we had been aggressive and tried to push the ball down field during the final :51 seconds and had a miscue (INT or Fumble), ALL of us would have been calling for his head at the end of the game.
Conventional wisdom was run out the clock and go in to overtime.
Be happy - IT worked - WE WON!!!!!
Chambers34Phins
Practice Squad
It was the right call, the players said it was the right call, I suppose you all dislike the Bill B for the intentional safety? Because they should have just drove down the field and scored?
DPlus47
Out with LaMaga, in with Talita!
i understand the point to a degree, but how many punts did ed reed almost block? there were too many opportunities for the players to lose this one and i don't think they had shown the coach any reason to gamble there.
Chambers34Phins
Practice Squad
Thank you!