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If you look at the 2 Jet TD drives in that game it was mostly Geno doing the damage.
5-5 for 49 yards on the 1st drive with a key 3rd down run by Geno to keep the drive going. Then they let the RB take it in for the TD.
Then 3-7 for 53 yards on the 2nd drive with a 3rd down passing conversion and another 3rd down run for the the TD by Geno.

After that the Jets had a lead and Rex went pretty conservative knowing we wouldn't score against his defense again

:lol: most the damage huh...is this the dogs talking?
 
If you compare Geno's 1st season with Ryan's 1st I would say they are very comparable. Both started badly with over matched QB's that turned it over too much. Then near the end of the season they both got better and stopped turning the ball over and started winning games consistently. If Geno improves like Ryan did in his second year you could have a decent QB.

lmao, they are nothing alike. at no point during tannehills rookie year, did anyone think he sucked on a 4 game stretch, like geno. among other times geno looked like he was terrible. which was quite often.
 
I don't see how that is a certainty. The dolphins could lose to the jets or vice versa the majority of the time, but that losing team could be a constant playoff team. they just have issues with one team.

yeah, Chad Henne had an issues beating Brady and the pats. Now he isn't a Dolphin and played as a backup last year.
 
sorry but 3 interception to None is badly outplayed. you just don't win may games with 3 Ints and 7 offensive points.

Ok well explain those 3 ints to me then...go back and watch the video if you need to
 
yeah, Chad Henne had an issues beating Brady and the pats. Now he isn't a Dolphin and played as a backup last year.

marino had a tough time beating the bills in the 90's, yet he survived. or is this just a new millennium thing? and i know the pats and colts are not in the same division, but manning has issues with the pats. I guess manning is a bum.

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also, who hasn't had a hard time beating the pats? lol
 
lmao, they are nothing alike. at no point during tannehills rookie year, did anyone think he sucked on a 4 game stretch, like geno. among other times geno looked like he was terrible. which was quite often.

Bottom line is they both had 7 games where their QBR was below 70. Geno just had 4 of them them in a row. Ryan had them every other game.

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marino had a tough time beating the bills in the 90's, yet he survived. or is this just a new millennium thing? and i know the pats and colts are not in the same division, but manning has issues with the pats. I guess manning is a bum.

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also, who hasn't had a hard time beating the pats? lol

Comparing Marino and Henne pretty much ends my discussion with you. Hall of Famers get a little leeway.
 
Geno had a cleaner game for sure...how much of that though actually translates to future success though of what he did not much...like I said that team takes the ball out of his hands in the red zone and resorts to other thing in the red zone like qb keeps etc cause they don't trust him to make good decisions in the passing game...

He had a flat brutal game against us in the first jets game...as bad as any qb has ever played and worse than any tannehill game ever...I mean atrocious...not even debatable
 
Badly outplayed if you think spreading us out in the red zone 2 times on 3rd down and goal and running qb keeps in for 6 are worth anything...the jets own coaching staff didn't even trust geno to make plays with his arm in the red zone they knew the guys decision making was flat awful...there's nothing to boast about that smith did unless you're dumb enough to think that kind of stuff means jack squat in the overall play at the qb position...

Make that your bread and butter and see how far it gets you...Miami should have known once the jets came out In spread in those scenarios what was coming...it was rediculously obvious but the jets took advantage of lost lbs both times...

Geno smith is awful...flat awful...the big pass play in that game for the jets came from a freaking hb pass to the tight end for god sakes...

There are many ways to move the ball and score, they took advantage of his many talents.

if the Jets didn't trust them why weren't they conservative on the TD drive to end the 1st half? they could have run out the clock and gone in tied. Earlier in the year they may have when they actually didn't trust him. he was making much better decisions late in the year.

that 1st and 10 from the 33 to Nelson inside the 5 must have really stung.


Geno may be awful but if Ryan played like Geno did in week 17 Miami would have finally made the postseason again.

Our D had 10 INts from week 1 through week 16.

Ryan gave us 3 in week 17 while leading his O to just 7 points.


7 points in 2 combined games against mediocre teams needing one win to get to postseason. Seriously:lol:

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Geno had a cleaner game for sure...how much of that though actually translates to future success though of what he did not much...like I said that team takes the ball out of his hands in the red zone and resorts to other thing in the red zone like qb keeps etc cause they don't trust him to make good decisions in the passing game...

He had a flat brutal game against us in the first jets game...as bad as any qb has ever played and worse than any tannehill game ever...I mean atrocious...not even debatable

he was awful in the first game but he was a completely different QB from that game on and that shows mental toughness to be that bad and to be able to come back from it. It's not like the Miami game was his only bad game, as bad as that one was he had WORSE games earlier in the year and it didn't beat him down. I can't say for sure how good or bad he will be but I know that the way he ended that season is a very positive sign.
 
Geno smith does not possess many talents as a qb...he runs a sneaky qb keeper...that's it...and even that won't carry any weight soon when teams sit on it...and the jets kick fgs in the red zone unless the running game scores...

Enjoy
 
Bottom line is they both had 7 games where their QBR was below 70. Geno just had 4 of them them in a row. Ryan had them every other game.

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Comparing Marino and Henne pretty much ends my discussion with you. Hall of Famers get a little leeway.

tannehill also had 7 games of 87 or higher, and geno 4. i took 87, because that's what seems to be the measure of a qb worthy of playoffs.

and i was not comparing marino to henne. i was giving an example of a qb that had trouble with an opponent, that contradicts your theory. a QB having troubles with one team does not mean they will not last in the league.
 
Meanwhile miamis got a qb the staff trust in the red zone with his arm...and trust period...18 to 1 td to int ratio in the red zone

No taking the ball out of our qbs hands in the red zone...everything's on the table for us
 
Meanwhile miamis got a qb the staff trust in the red zone with his arm...and trust period...18 to 1 td to int ratio in the red zone

No taking the ball out of our qbs hands in the red zone...everything's on the table for us

but couldn't trust him needing 1 win against 2 mediocre teams w/ the season on the line.

Maybe if they took things off the table they would have been a playoff team?


and Ryan was in year 2 in the NFL, w/ MUCH better weapons, in the same system he had been in for 3-4 years.

Compare that to Geno year 1 in brand new system and no weapons and still geno outplayed him in Ryan's biggest game of his life.

tannehill also had 7 games of 87 or higher, and geno 4. i took 87, because that's what seems to be the measure of a qb worthy of playoffs.

and i was not comparing marino to henne. i was giving an example of a qb that had trouble with an opponent, that contradicts your theory. a QB having troubles with one team does not mean they will not last in the league.

so 7 in a system he was comfortable in w/ much better weapons around him vs. a rookie not ready to play in year 1 of a brand new system that was nothing like the one he ran in college and it's only a 3 game difference? considering Geno sucked most of the year that's another bad sign for Ryan.


By the way, Ryan only had 6 of 87 or better. 2 of which were against us the first game where he had a poor game and at Pitt where he was mediocre at best so #s don't tell the whole story.
 
Meanwhile miamis got a qb the staff trust in the red zone with his arm...and trust period...18 to 1 td to int ratio in the red zone

No taking the ball out of our qbs hands in the red zone...everything's on the table for us

But getting to the Red Zone is the issue. 46 trips to red zone in 16 games ranks us 23rd in the league.
We are good when we get there but we don't get there nearly enough.
 
But getting to the Red Zone is the issue. 46 trips to red zone in 16 games ranks us 23rd in the league.
We are good when we get there but we don't get there nearly enough.

especially when you can't throw deep and can't score outside the RZ.
 
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