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eli was the best qb in the 4th quarter last year in the game...in the clutch eli was the best...i've knocked eli before for being overrated but in 2011 he was damn terrific when it mattered most...
 
If you think the Jets have regressed from last year then you are lumped in w/ the rest.



Eli was not close to the best QB in the game last year and I wasn't arguing Sanchez vs. Eli.

From a playcalling and OC perspective, the Jets have either regressed or stayed the same. They certainly have not improved and Miami fans are more qualified to assess your OC position than Jets fans are. 4 years of experience!
 
From a playcalling and OC perspective, the Jets have either regressed or stayed the same. They certainly have not improved and Miami fans are more qualified to assess your OC position than Jets fans are. 4 years of experience!

4 years of experience w/ Tony as the HEAD COACH not the OC. Those are 2 very different positions.
 
If you think the Jets have regressed from last year then you are lumped in w/ the rest.

You are attacking the person (ad hominem) rather than addressing his point - we know Sparano better then you do and the Jets might be worse off because of him. How about addressing Sparano's effectiveness as a HC, his choice of OCs, and how viability of the offensive systems under his watch?

Why do you think you'll be better with him?

Sparano was supposed to be a good OL coach and we saw the line and the development of talent in that area go south. He had a prehistoric OC and then picked one that performed even less effectively. Our big success was the Wildcat until teams caught on, as they will with any limited gadget system. I'd really like to see any logic supported by evidence that you can present that shows the Jets have not regressed, at least in the area OC, with the addition of Sparano.
 
Yeah, it's all on Cruz for that one catch, Eli gets no credit. However in junc's green-tinted Bizarro World, Sanchez "led" the jest to the 2009 PO 3pt squeaker against choker Norv's SD beating itself with Kaeding's 2 easy FG misses from 36&40 despite hitting 69 straight 40ydrs or closer and having a 91% FG accuracy , Taco's 100yds passing, 12-23, 60QBR , 1 -3yd TD and 1 Int, and Greene's 54 yard TD run to go ahead.. Spinner heal thineself...if not for Greene, the jest would have lost the game they very much deserved to 14-10. Based on Sanchez's crapping the bed, you can't compare Cruz's catch to Greene's run as far as withholding QB credit!
 
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It was the meatballs ground and pound offensive philosophy... AND dont forget there were a handfull of times when the meatball called plays. we know the TYPE of person he is and we know the TYPE of offense he likes. You guys are in for a long season. You guys better upgrade your kicking position..
4 years of experience w/ Tony as the HEAD COACH not the OC. Those are 2 very different positions.
 
speaking of homers, Hi Vaark.

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It was the meatballs ground and pound offensive philosophy... AND dont forget there were a handfull of times when the meatball called plays. we know the TYPE of person he is and we know the TYPE of offense he likes. You guys are in for a long season. You guys better upgrade your kicking position..

Our ground and pound philosophy got us to 2 title games, due to circumstances a year ago w/ the OL we strayed from that philosphy.
 
speaking of homers, Hi Vaark.

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Our ground and pound philosophy got us to 2 title games, due to circumstances a year ago w/ the OL we strayed from that philosphy.

Your team in general has regressed since those two title games. Greene is nowhere near the RB Jones was and LT will likely be gone. The Meatball will not improve your OL and will change players positions on a weekly basis instead of staying with what works. He will outthink himself and with that the ground and pound that the meatball will run will be horribly ineffective.
 
speaking of realists who won't drink the puke green-colored koolaid no matter how many times I try to force feed it to a not-so-gullible forum Hi Vaark.

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Our ground and pound philosophy got us to 2 title games, due to circumstances a year ago w/ the OL we strayed from that philosphy.

fixed it for ya.

remember your SATs?

Answer the following:
Sanchez is to Eli Manning as

a) Michelle Ryan is to Mother Theresa
b) Pete Doherty is to Tim Tebow
c) a Ford Fiesta is to a Lexus LS460
d) Lindsay Lohan is to Meryl Streep
e) all of the above
 
speaking of homers, Hi Vaark.

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Our ground and pound philosophy got us to 2 title games, due to circumstances a year ago w/ the OL we strayed from that philosphy.

balogna...you went away from it cause ryan and shotty thought that sanchez could handle being the focal point of the offense...thus they went to a more open offense and passing game instead of working off pa etc and ground and pound...sanchez proved he couldn't handle it...way too inconsistent

all that other stuff is garbage...that said sparanos philosophys on o are a good fit for what sanchez needs...and thats to take the pressure off the qb with the downhill running game and pa
 
Holy **** I've actually read someone argue that Trent Dilfer is UNDERRATED hahahahahaha

I've heard some whoppers in my day. I guess in the same world that Trent Dilfer is UNDERRATED you've got yourself the mindset to believe Sanchez is a good QB. Hey JunC, what about Rex Grossman? The Bears haven't been back to the superbowl without him! Clearly the dude is elite!

By the way, with Eli the Giants have 2 superbowls in 5 years, which is much better than your arbitrary "Well the Jets have been the Y more than anyone in the past X years!" (Your little made up subjections to make the Jets look better) when in reality you're giving Sanchez credit for doing less than Eli, while praising Sanchez.

Eli is a top 5 QB in the league while Sanchez is easily a bottom 7. There's no question. Even your coaching staff admits it. There have been times Rex has considered BENCHING Sanchez, and they brought in Tim ****ing Tebow to back him up (start over him week 5) yet you think HE'S UNFLAPPABLE? Give me a break dude.

Yeah, I broke down specifically in another thread how he generates these insane philosophies about bad QBs on good teams to make himself feel better about how awful Sanchez is. The dude has lost his mind.
 
balogna...you went away from it cause ryan and shotty thought that sanchez could handle being the focal point of the offense...thus they went to a more open offense and passing game instead of working off pa etc and ground and pound...sanchez proved he couldn't handle it...way too inconsistent

all that other stuff is garbage

we went away from it b/c we couldn't run and were falling behind early.

week 1 vs. dallas:

Greene & LT 3/1 YPC in 1st half
Jets fell behind 10-0, 17-7 and were down 14-10 in the 4th
Sanchez passed it 36 times

week 2 vs. Jax:
Greene/LT 3.8 YPC in 1st half(would have been higher but LT had 2 carries for -4 yds) but we led and didn't abandon the run game
we led throughout
Greene, LT & McKnight ran it 28 times
Sanchez threw it 24 times

We also fell behind at oak, at Bal. etc... It was all about the OL and run game that dictated how often we passed.

Sanchez didn't prove he couldn't handle it, he still had us at 8-5 heading into the last 3 weeks and he had to pass in the '10 title game and brought us back giving us a chance until the D blew it.
 
eli was the best qb in the 4th quarter last year in the game...in the clutch eli was the best...i've knocked eli before for being overrated but in 2011 he was damn terrific when it mattered most...

I have never been a particular fan of E Manning, either, but in 2011, he was also excellent during the season, probably for the first time in his pro career, NOT getting down on himself and NOT being the very streaky QB he had been in the past. Until the Giants D finally got rolling late in the season, it was mostly Eli's passing, especially in the fourth quarters, that kept the Gnats in the playoff hunt. I think having two great targets in Cruz and Nicks for the first time in his career helped him immeasurably.
 
Junc, you're going to let Vaark get away with saying Sanchez led the Jets to victory over the Chargers???? :lol:
 
Junc, you're going to let Vaark get away with saying Sanchez led the Jets to victory over the Chargers???? :lol:

vaark doesn't know if a football is pumped w/ air or stuffed w/ feathers. The fact that he bashes Sanchez for the SD game tells me all I need to know about his football knowledge.
 
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