I dunno, you guys will just have to agree to disagree. 90% of the NFL experts out there call Marshall a playmaker. Not because of his speed and quickness (that generally is the accepted largest contributor to being a "playmaker"), but he creates explosive plays with his strength and tackle breaking ability. He had a bad season last year. In 14 games he was in the top 5 in the entire NFL of targets. Now, some would say this proves he couldn't make plays with so many balls thrown his way, but some will also say that because he was targeted so frequently, he got more multiple covers than all but a couple of receivers in the game. QB ball placement plays a large part in a playmakers ability to make plays. Henne has a tendency to underthrow the mid-deep routes giving the defense time to close the gap and make a play. But one could argue that a playmaker still finds a way to get it done. Again, there are more ways to look at it, but either way, it really doesn't matter. Marshall and Holmes are the 2 best receivers in the division by a pretty sizeable margin. I believe they are BOTH playmakers. My definition is alot less stat based. If good things happen often when throwing the guy the ball or getting it to him, I dub him a playmaker in my mind. He makes plays. TD's don't necessarily fit into the equation, it is a by product. Extending drives and getting first downs is just as important. Coming up big in big situations is what you expect from a playmaker, and I don't think anyone can argue that Marshall does that. He absolutely does. He just had a down season. (If you can call 1000+ yards in 14 games a down season).