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You won't hear from another Bills fan until Fitzy goes into your house and beats you with an NFL Europe team again...

Don't get confused about your place in the big picture. The Bills are nothing special, but guess what phuckface? Neither are the phins.

Lol CircleJerk now shows up once a year every year at the same time to fling poo then disappear into the depths of Bills hell.
 
Junc look up the video of what Marhall did to the Giants 2 years ago when he had an NFL ready qb throwing him the ball. Dude is the definition of a playmaker. The idea that you would even put Edwards in the same sentence as Marshall is embarrasing on yr part.
I also love how yr predicating yr entire argument on ONE single statistic in YPC, yet any and all of us can go back nd look at yr arguments in favor of Sanchez where u say that stats mean nothing nd u have to watch the games. Love how u get to have it both ways, incredible. FYI I do watch the games and i know that Marshall is a beast that abuses corners and mark sanchez is a little girl that gets carried by a great supporting cast.
 
Lol CircleJerk now shows up once a year every year at the same time to fling poo then disappear into the depths of Bills hell.

Why are you a liar? Your family would be disappointed in you.

I show up throughout the season, not in the offseason.
 
Junc look up the video of what Marhall did to the Giants 2 years ago when he had an NFL ready qb throwing him the ball. Dude is the definition of a playmaker. The idea that you would even put Edwards in the same sentence as Marshall is embarrasing on yr part.
I also love how yr predicating yr entire argument on ONE single statistic in YPC, yet any and all of us can go back nd look at yr arguments in favor of Sanchez where u say that stats mean nothing nd u have to watch the games. Love how u get to have it both ways, incredible. FYI I do watch the games and i know that Marshall is a beast that abuses corners and mark sanchez is a little girl that gets carried by a great supporting cast.

he's had good #s QBs throwing to him most of his career and only has a 12.2 avg. w/ only 28 TDs and most have been of a short distance. GREAT possession WR, he's not a playmaker.
 
If i was rooting for my team to win in the future and knew that this year would be a sub .500 year..Then i would root for Luck and feel that the fins deserve him cause they are still looking for marino's replacement..
 
he's had good #s QBs throwing to him most of his career and only has a 12.2 avg. w/ only 28 TDs and most have been of a short distance. GREAT possession WR, he's not a playmaker.

Yea well again, i thought #'s didnt matter for QBs - again you contradict yrself. Like many others have said here just because you don't have burning straigjt line speed (Larry Fitz, Boldin, PLAXICO) doesn't mean you aren't a playmaker. This is a dumb argument about semantics anyway. Point is Sanchez is gay, **** the jets.
 
Why dont you wana admit marshall is a playmaker? It makes you look bad and ignorant.

It makes me look like I know what I am talking about. if you guys think he is a playmaker then you don't know what a playmaker is.

Yea well again, i thought #'s didnt matter for QBs - again you contradict yrself. Like many others have said here just because you don't have burning straigjt line speed (Larry Fitz, Boldin, PLAXICO) doesn't mean you aren't a playmaker. This is a dumb argument about semantics anyway. Point is Sanchez is gay, **** the jets.

#s always factor in, it's just not all about #s. For QBs they are responsible for the entire offense, for RBs and WRs it is different. Playmakers don't catch so few TDs, don't average 12 yds per, don't have so few explosive plays.
 
I dunno, you guys will just have to agree to disagree. 90% of the NFL experts out there call Marshall a playmaker. Not because of his speed and quickness (that generally is the accepted largest contributor to being a "playmaker"), but he creates explosive plays with his strength and tackle breaking ability. He had a bad season last year. In 14 games he was in the top 5 in the entire NFL of targets. Now, some would say this proves he couldn't make plays with so many balls thrown his way, but some will also say that because he was targeted so frequently, he got more multiple covers than all but a couple of receivers in the game. QB ball placement plays a large part in a playmakers ability to make plays. Henne has a tendency to underthrow the mid-deep routes giving the defense time to close the gap and make a play. But one could argue that a playmaker still finds a way to get it done. Again, there are more ways to look at it, but either way, it really doesn't matter. Marshall and Holmes are the 2 best receivers in the division by a pretty sizeable margin. I believe they are BOTH playmakers. My definition is alot less stat based. If good things happen often when throwing the guy the ball or getting it to him, I dub him a playmaker in my mind. He makes plays. TD's don't necessarily fit into the equation, it is a by product. Extending drives and getting first downs is just as important. Coming up big in big situations is what you expect from a playmaker, and I don't think anyone can argue that Marshall does that. He absolutely does. He just had a down season. (If you can call 1000+ yards in 14 games a down season).
 
Are y'all still arguing with Junc if Marshall is a playmaker :lol: . . . I gave that a rest 6 or 7 pages ago. Marshall has made big plays throughout his career, he doesn't need a Jets fan to cosign him being a playmaker or not.
 
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