AJ is indeed improving

[adamprez2003]

Let me get this straight. You are saying you heard that there were GMs saying that AJ Feeley was a better prospect than Carson Palmer, Daivd Carr, Joey Harrington, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers and Eli Manning. Is this what you heard, read, dreamed, saw, or felt after a long night of hanging out is Rickys tent smoking weed.
Dude, every GM is the league was rolling around laughing at us for giving up a 2nd round pick for a 3rd string QB. Man, the Colts can't even get a 2nd for the Edge and we gave up the 34th overall pick. Even if he plays better and gets to start some of the time, no one is gonna think we made a GOOD trade. We could have got him for less is the point. And shouldn't have gotten him at all.
Are you really AJs mom??:D

there are some real winners here.
Who was available for the dolphins to pick up last year? Are you telling me Carson Palmer, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers and Eli Manning were all available for the Dolphins to get last year.
If anyone has been hitting the weed its you for thinking that that's what I was implying
The choice last year was between Brunnell, Jeff Garcia and AJ Feeley

In my opinion Feeley is the best of the lot

 

[PHINATIC13]

More like pre-season, which is 5 games this year (we need all of them)Don't forget last year when Jay had spent the last 5 yrs. running the Dolphin O and last it was still so close to name the starter (Jay) which didn't last to long.



One thing that always bothered me was how people used to say Jay should have been so used to the offense b/c he had been here 5 years, but in 4 of those years he got different O cordinators. Now AJ is here and instead of people saying he should know it they are still using the same lame excuse in reverse. It can't work both ways.
True Gus worked under the new O Cord. but which is it that matters, working under the system or with the team? Jay always was expected to play perfectly b/c he played with the same players, now it is the cordinator that matters hmmmm, just food for thought

I agree with you on that one 38. I'm saying Aj will prevail (again) despite that.It's ahelluva lot newer to AJ than Gus yes? Should be fun to see how it all pans out.

 

[gonick1]

flashes of greatness ? ......na, I leave it alone........like hell I will, FEELY SUCKS!!!!
THE GUY IS SINGLEHANDEDLY DRAINING THE LIFE OUT OF MIAMI FORGET THE HURRICAINES WACH OUT FOR A.J.

 

[Eshlemon]

Steve Young is a hall of fame Qb, Aj Feeley is a guy who has to compete with a career backup for the starting job. He played well in stretches, but he was not even close to great, your definition must be very different from mine though. If he had quite a few stretches than the team probably should've been better than 4-12. I think he may end up being good, but right now he's a below average QB who probably would have a difficult time starting for almost every team in the league.

Did you ever see Steve Young's first 2 years in the NFL? He had 11 TD, 21 INT, & QB ratings of 56.9 in 1985 & 65.5 in 1986. The hall of famer made such a difference Tampa Bay was 4-28 instead of 3-28 or worse over those 2 years. Even the 2 previous years in the USFL Young wasn't good with 16 TD and 22 INT. Great coaching and offensive teamates made Young into a great QB. Hopefully AJ can get the same and will be able to become the good QB many of us feel he has the potential to be.

 

[djfresh47]

Did you ever see Steve Young's first 2 years in the NFL? He had 11 TD, 21 INT, & QB ratings of 56.9 in 1985 & 65.5 in 1986. The hall of famer made such a difference Tampa Bay was 4-28 instead of 3-28 or worse over those 2 years. Even the 2 previous years in the USFL Young wasn't good with 16 TD and 22 INT. Great coaching and offensive teamates made Young into a great QB. Hopefully AJ can get the same and will be able to become the good QB many of us feel he has the potential to be.

Isn't AJ going into his 4th or 5th year. Well Ryan Leaf was bad in his first two years also, but nobody brings up that comparision. The Young to Feeley thing is ridiculous, just like other people would say that if I compared Feeley to some QB who flopped and had similar numbers in his first couple years as a starter. Aj is a below average Qb right now, but he may improve, but he's not getting another chance after this year if he fails.

 

[Mako]

I put this response in the AJ improvement threat, but thought I should let everyone know the latest on the Qb's

Here's the latest I've read on the subject:

Feeley must show that he is better than average after showing glimpses of greatness in 2004. He finished the year with a below-average 61.7 passer rating, completing 53.7 percent of his passes with 11 touchdowns and 15 interceptions in 11 games.
Could Gus Frerotte start for the Dolphins?


Saban was also pleased with his three quarterbacks -- A.J. Feeley, Gus Frerotte and Sage Rosenfels -- though Frerotte has a little edge at this stage based on his knowledge of offensive coordinator Scott Linehan's system.

"All three quarterbacks have progressed nicely," Saban said. "Which one's going to start, and how are we going to make that decision . . . we're going to play the best player. Whoever plays the best. Isn't that what everybody would do? We'll do that every position, and most certainly we'll do that at this position."
On the learning curve

Right now, Gus knows the O the best, as expected, but the other 2 are progressing nicely too. AJ does have a chance to start.

Rather than read through the three pages, and encounter about half of those being "FEELEY SUCKS AND NEEDS TO BE CUT" threads, I'm going to reply to the first one in the topic and work my way from there.

I DO think Feeley, given a full season at the helm will show improvements. Am I expecting him to throw for 4,000 and 40? No, but to me a 2,500 yard, 25 TD season would be re-assuring. I think that's not too unreasonable to expect.

Also, he'll have several things working in his favor this year that he didn't last.

A). Stability Let's face it.. Wanny was doing everything he could to keep his job. The entire front office was in disarray and it was almost a forgone conclusion that most, if not all of the staff would be sent packing at the end of the year, if not sooner. This year won't be as unstable.

B). An improved offensive line No significant moves talentwise were made here, unless you count the signing of Stockar McDougal, but I think the addition of OLine guru Hudson Houck will prove huge. To me, there's not that much of a difference between this O-Line and the one he had to work with in San Diego. He worked that in to a servicable unit, and I think the Phins have enough talent (Carey will only improve, James is underrated, McDougal has a chance to make an impact) to where he can at least formulate somewhat of a respectable line, which is more than can be said of last season's OLine.

C). An improved offense At this point, without ever taking an NFL snap, Ronnie Brown is a huge upgrade and better than ANYTHING Miami had in the backfield last year. Couple this up with a returning David Boston, who if healthy can be a dangerous deep field threat, and Marty Booker (who will flourish in this new system) and you have improvement. Also, let's face it, Forrester was garbage as an Offensive Coordinator. Linehan is a huge upgrade, who will work wonders with this growing offense.

So, yeah.. I think Feeley will only improve. I saw glimpses of what he's capable of in the New England game (remember, the Dolphins are the last team to pick up a victory over the Patriots last season). I think he's got potential to at least do the job. He's not going to put up Marinoesque numbers, but so few out there are.

 

[adamprez2003]

Rather than read through the three pages, and encounter about half of those being "FEELEY SUCKS AND NEEDS TO BE CUT" threads, I'm going to reply to the first one in the topic and work my way from there.

I DO think Feeley, given a full season at the helm will show improvements. Am I expecting him to throw for 4,000 and 40? No, but to me a 2,500 yard, 25 TD season would be re-assuring. I think that's not too unreasonable to expect.

Also, he'll have several things working in his favor this year that he didn't last.

A). Stability Let's face it.. Wanny was doing everything he could to keep his job. The entire front office was in disarray and it was almost a forgone conclusion that most, if not all of the staff would be sent packing at the end of the year, if not sooner. This year won't be as unstable.

B). An improved offensive line No significant moves talentwise were made here, unless you count the signing of Stockar McDougal, but I think the addition of OLine guru Hudson Houck will prove huge. To me, there's not that much of a difference between this O-Line and the one he had to work with in San Diego. He worked that in to a servicable unit, and I think the Phins have enough talent (Carey will only improve, James is underrated, McDougal has a chance to make an impact) to where he can at least formulate somewhat of a respectable line, which is more than can be said of last season's OLine.

C). An improved offense At this point, without ever taking an NFL snap, Ronnie Brown is a huge upgrade and better than ANYTHING Miami had in the backfield last year. Couple this up with a returning David Boston, who if healthy can be a dangerous deep field threat, and Marty Booker (who will flourish in this new system) and you have improvement. Also, let's face it, Forrester was garbage as an Offensive Coordinator. Linehan is a huge upgrade, who will work wonders with this growing offense.

So, yeah.. I think Feeley will only improve. I saw glimpses of what he's capable of in the New England game (remember, the Dolphins are the last team to pick up a victory over the Patriots last season). I think he's got potential to at least do the job. He's not going to put up Marinoesque numbers, but so few out there are.

Agreed. although I'm not sure if Boston still has any speed left. Any idea how he's looked

 

[Mako]

Agreed. although I'm not sure if Boston still has any speed left. Any idea how he's looked

So far, so good. We'll all be able to make better judgement when they start getting in to full-contact drills, but from what I've read, Boston looks in as good of shape as he has since his hayday in Arizona. We'll see.

 

[adamprez2003]

So far, so good. We'll all be able to make better judgement when they start getting in to full-contact drills, but from what I've read, Boston looks in as good of shape as he has since his hayday in Arizona. We'll see.

Thx for the feedback. Got my fingers crossed

 

[Mako]

Thx for the feedback. Got my fingers crossed

No probs man. I'm hoping too.. I've been a Boston fan since his OSU days.

 

[Eshlemon]

Isn't AJ going into his 4th or 5th year. Well Ryan Leaf was bad in his first two years also, but nobody brings up that comparision. The Young to Feeley thing is ridiculous, just like other people would say that if I compared Feeley to some QB who flopped and had similar numbers in his first couple years as a starter. Aj is a below average Qb right now, but he may improve, but he's not getting another chance after this year if he fails.

It's also ridiculous for you to say a QB like Young would have won more games than Feeley (4th year) for Miami in 2004 when Young was as bad during his 4th professional year with TB. My comparison was to show how a great QB can suck for bad coaches/offensive teamates. Hopefully both will be improved and Feeley shows the ability to be a good QB.

Either way, agree this is probably Feeley's last year to prove himselft with Miami. We'll find out if he's a Leaf, Frerotte, or Young this year.


6/12 Edit: Young was in his 2nd year with TB, 4th year in professional football (2 in USFL).

 

[TeeMoney]

...I saw glimpses of what he's capable of in the New England game (remember, the Dolphins are the last team to pick up a victory over the Patriots last season)....

Feeley threw for less than 200 yards that game. Feeley had one TD in that game. Feeley was sacked 4 times, and fumbled the ball in that game. By all accounts Feeley never should have had the chance to throw that final pass, the pass to the #3 WR being covered by a WR. I give Feeley credit for battling through the sacks, overcoming the fumble, and leading the team to a TD after Brady's boneheaded Yepremianesque pass to our LB. But to pick that one game, and say you got glimpses of what he is capable of because of what? I saw a glimpse of Sage's greatness on the first play against Baltimore. I saw glimpses of Fiedler's greatness in the Thanksgiving day game against Dallas.

The first half that Feeley played against Buffalo is what I would like to see. But not the second half. Seeing glimpses of greatness in one series of a football game, or in one quarter, or one half of a game is like seeing the virgin mary in a urine stained subway wall, or on a piece of burnt toast.

 

[Boik14]

in his first couple of years no one thought Steve Young was a HOFer.

Steve Young was stuck behind some guy named Montana for a few years and do we have to even look at Tb where he was stuck on some of the worst teams in league history. By comparison our phins last year would have ruled those bucs teams in 85 and 86. They were pathetic.

 

[Boik14]

It's also ridiculous for you to say a QB like Young would have won more games than Feeley (4th year) for Miami in 2004 when Young was as bad during his 4th professional year with TB. My comparison was to show how a great QB can suck for bad coaches/offensive teamates. Hopefully both will be improved and Feeley shows the ability to be a good QB.

Either way, agree this is probably Feeley's last year to prove himselft with Miami. We'll find out if he's a Leaf, Frerotte, or Young this year.

Young was only with TB for 2 years not 4 and as soon as he went to Sf he improved dramatically. Maybe you were including young's time in the usfl

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/YounSt00.htm

 

[fin13]

Considering the overall state of the team, we should be hopefull that AJ should do significantly better.
He plyed in the second worst team in the NFL, with a defence that couldn't stop the run and without any coaching.
the Fins were a disaster and while we look at what we gave up for AJ you also have to consider his low salary you have to look at the total cost.
I hope he plays well and if logic prevails with a better team around him and real coaching he should do better.