MiamiDolfans
No-Neck
Ok a quick reponse to all the statements...
Pete was indeed a kicker, but he could punt as well, maybe I did stretch it putting him at punter. I had actually forgot all about Ray Guy, to be honest.
Peyton Manning is a mentionable, but he needs to maintain his current gameplay for a few more years, and a superbowl would make it definate.
In my mind there are way to many great runningbacks, and because of that many greats won't get mention. Marcus Allen didn't make the cut, the other guys where just up on him too much. Priests Holmes?! Are we talking about the Priest Holmes who plays for the Kansas City Chiefs, and has only been a starter for like 4 seasons out of his career? He was not even considered for the mentionables list, sorry.
Derrick Thomas probably should have been a mentionable, but he can not start over those linebackers in the list - there is just no way. In all reality his talent probably surpasses them, but you need to compensate for eras as well. when those linebackers played in their eras, they dominated teams, and changed the course of games.
As for Surtain - I am a homer, but not that much. He is nowhere near Prime Time, Night Train, or Bullet. Don't get me wrong I love Surtain, but he still has a long ways to go to be an all-time great.
Sammy Knight? You kidding me? He has nothing on any of the safeties I used. If any current playing safety should be mentioned, it would probably be John Lynch.
Bruce Smith is definately a mentionable. He was heavily thought about, and didn't make the cut. He does indeed own the sack record, but that could be credited to how long he played and teams around him. In my mind he was never as dominant i nthe game as some of the other all-time DEs. Mind you he had his moments. Maybe when he gets in the HOF he will raise in stock on this list. His 4 superbowl appearences are always nice (sorry Bills fans, just had to). :D :D
Yes Bo Jackson just had to be mention. Had he played a full career Emmitt Smith would probably still be playing today trying to catch some records. Bo knows, he is simply amazing.
Tony Richardson was a toss up, but he has been consistent and a great player. In modern-day fullback type of position I believe he is the best, but its a tight race. There are alot you can argue, and it just depends on who you've seen dominate the most I suppose.
I had thought about Rod Woodson, and really he could make the team as a fifth corner, so I will add that. But he has never changed games like the other corners have. I put him one step up on Surtain, but still not quite there, a few more years would be nice for him - just 3 average, or better years.
I had to put Dan Hampton up there. He was a key part of the Bears NEAR PERFECT team, and his versatility was great. He landed in the HOF, and he was a gamebreaker for several years. I just can't think of anyone more deserving, although it was a close race with him and a few others.
As for Swann being over-rated, I hate it when people say that. Its disguiting the lack of credit he gets. I watched hours of this guy on gametape and had he just played a career as long as J.Rice he would be considered the second best receiver all-time by more than a few critics.
I am a homer, don't get me wrong. Dwight is a great guy, and I wanted him on that badly. But in his eight years of play he just didn't cut what it takes to be all-time. To be honest Dermonti Dawson was a close race himself, but he surpassed Dwight Stephenson, no doubt.
Pete was indeed a kicker, but he could punt as well, maybe I did stretch it putting him at punter. I had actually forgot all about Ray Guy, to be honest.
Peyton Manning is a mentionable, but he needs to maintain his current gameplay for a few more years, and a superbowl would make it definate.
In my mind there are way to many great runningbacks, and because of that many greats won't get mention. Marcus Allen didn't make the cut, the other guys where just up on him too much. Priests Holmes?! Are we talking about the Priest Holmes who plays for the Kansas City Chiefs, and has only been a starter for like 4 seasons out of his career? He was not even considered for the mentionables list, sorry.
Derrick Thomas probably should have been a mentionable, but he can not start over those linebackers in the list - there is just no way. In all reality his talent probably surpasses them, but you need to compensate for eras as well. when those linebackers played in their eras, they dominated teams, and changed the course of games.
As for Surtain - I am a homer, but not that much. He is nowhere near Prime Time, Night Train, or Bullet. Don't get me wrong I love Surtain, but he still has a long ways to go to be an all-time great.
Sammy Knight? You kidding me? He has nothing on any of the safeties I used. If any current playing safety should be mentioned, it would probably be John Lynch.
Bruce Smith is definately a mentionable. He was heavily thought about, and didn't make the cut. He does indeed own the sack record, but that could be credited to how long he played and teams around him. In my mind he was never as dominant i nthe game as some of the other all-time DEs. Mind you he had his moments. Maybe when he gets in the HOF he will raise in stock on this list. His 4 superbowl appearences are always nice (sorry Bills fans, just had to). :D :D
Yes Bo Jackson just had to be mention. Had he played a full career Emmitt Smith would probably still be playing today trying to catch some records. Bo knows, he is simply amazing.
Tony Richardson was a toss up, but he has been consistent and a great player. In modern-day fullback type of position I believe he is the best, but its a tight race. There are alot you can argue, and it just depends on who you've seen dominate the most I suppose.
I had thought about Rod Woodson, and really he could make the team as a fifth corner, so I will add that. But he has never changed games like the other corners have. I put him one step up on Surtain, but still not quite there, a few more years would be nice for him - just 3 average, or better years.
I had to put Dan Hampton up there. He was a key part of the Bears NEAR PERFECT team, and his versatility was great. He landed in the HOF, and he was a gamebreaker for several years. I just can't think of anyone more deserving, although it was a close race with him and a few others.
As for Swann being over-rated, I hate it when people say that. Its disguiting the lack of credit he gets. I watched hours of this guy on gametape and had he just played a career as long as J.Rice he would be considered the second best receiver all-time by more than a few critics.
I am a homer, don't get me wrong. Dwight is a great guy, and I wanted him on that badly. But in his eight years of play he just didn't cut what it takes to be all-time. To be honest Dermonti Dawson was a close race himself, but he surpassed Dwight Stephenson, no doubt.
. He was a tough toss up with a few other guys, but after looking at some gametapes, and in-game effectiveness he tipped the scale.