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General Grimmac said:
and during the time when d. thomas (#58, chiefs) was playing and alive, he had more sacks than smith for some of those seasons... and maybe more than smith during that time period (he has the record of sacks in one game, 7, against seattle and dave krieg, who later played for the chiefs).
give him 3 more years, and he'd be in the top 3-4 for all time sacks, and maybe even at the top.
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His potential is very true, but the thing is Lewis still is playing and has the chance to achieve more. Sadly Thomas doesn't. :cry:
 
MiamiDolfans said:
There is no doubt he was great, but was he a better player than...

L.Taylor
J.Ham
N.Buoniconti
J.Lambert
M.Singletary
D.Butkus
R.Lewis
W.Lanier
R.Nitschke

Only one I rank him ahead of is Lewis, and Lewis is there based on his potential in the next few years.
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he was a great but no way better than LT who imo was the best to ever play
 
kbeath said:
What about Steve Largent? He was easily top 3 Wr of all time.
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I actually had a really tough time with Largent. I felt Sterling Sharpe really deserved to be on there, so I had alot of trouble and I decided to go with Sharpe. In my mind Sharpe is the only one he would eliminate and I suppose it is 50/50. And of course Randy Moss, but him being on the list is based on how his career SHOULD finish.
 
MiamiDolfans said:
***SOME CHANGES HAVE OCCURED***
Ray Guy @ punter
Rod Woodson @ 5th corner (was previously only 4 corners)
A few more mentionables added
Paul Warfield @ 6th receiver (was previously only 5 receivers)

I know we just had a post about this, but I spent a few hours researching this and didn't want to just reply to the thread. In relation to the other post, here is my response on an all NFL-Team...

QB
D.Marino
J.Montana
J.Elway
HB
B.Sanders
O.Simpson*
W.Peyton
J.Brown
B.Jackson*
FB
L.Csonka
T.Richardson*
TE
S.Sharpe
M.Ditka
K.Winslow
WR
J. Rice
C.Carter
L.Swann*
P.Warfield
S.Sharpe
R.Moss*
LT
A.Munoz
Webb
LG
G.Upshaw
J.Otto
C
J.Langer
D.Dawson
RG
L.Little
J.DeLamielleure*
RT
A.Shell
J.Slater
D.Dierdorf
LE
D.Jones
R.White
RE
R.Dent
H.Long*
DT
W.Perry
D.Hampton
J.Greene
LOLB
L.Taylor
J.Ham
N.Buoniconti*
MLB
J.Lambert
M.Singletary
D.Butkus
R.Lewis*
ROLB
W.Lanier
R.Nitschke
CB
D.Sanders
D.Lane
H.Adderley
M.Renfro
R.Woodson*
FS
S.Atwater
K. Houston
SS
R.Lott
P. Krause
K
G.Anderson
P
R.Guy
Coach
V.Lombardi
D.Shula
T.Landry
B.Belichick*
Other Mentionables
J.Unitas
R.Staubach
T.Aikman
B.Starr
J.Namath
E.Smith
L.Allen
W.Allen
C.Noll
B.Walsh
A.Davis
W.Moon
D.Stephenson
P.Manning
P.Stoyanovich
R.Roby
B.Smith
E.Campbell
D.Thomas

Ok, so I spent a few hours comparing a few guys trying to get a breakdown. But for the most part I have known these guys long before I made this. Of course it can't be prefectly true, I am 15 years old, and missed some great days of football. But based on games I have seen, classic footage, statistics, pro-bowls, mvps, other awards, super-bowls, and shear game-breaking ability... that is my roster. Players with stars beside their names are questionables.

I know alot of guys wouldn't put O.J. on this list, but simply put he ran for 2000+ yards in 13 games, on a a terrible team. There is no doubt in my mind he is one of the best running backs ever to play in the NFL.

Bo Jackson in my opinion deserves to be there, but many may disagree. He is and was one of the greatest athletes of all-time. The only thing keeping him from being a definate was an unfortunate injury that held him short.

Tony Richardson is still playing, but needless to say has been a force at FB. He is a threat in many aspects of the game, and in my opinion if he finishes out a few more years with KC (maybe win a superbowl), and gets into the hall of fame in a few years he is a definate starter on this team.

Lynn Swann is terribly under-rated, since the basterds finally let him in the hall of fame there is no argueing his position on the all-time list.

Randy Moss is half man, and half amazing, but he has major attitude problems. If he can maintain his play for a few more years and drop the attitude he is a definate member of this team, but no doubt it lower in the ranks. A superbowl and trip to the hall would really help him out also.

Joe DeLamielleure was a bill... just joking :p. He was a tough toss up with a few other guys, but after looking at some gametapes, and in-game effectiveness he tipped the scale.

Personally I hate Howie Long, but I had to put him there... credit goes, where credit is due.

Nick Buoniconti is probably only on this list because I am a homer, but really he is a hall of famer, he played with the undefeated Dolphins, and was truly outstanding when no one even knew his name.

Ray Lewis is in the same boat as Randy Moss as far as I am concerned. If he can play a few more years at his current level, stay away from injury, and get into the hall, then he is more than deserving to be on this list.

Last but not least I had to add good old Bill to the list of coaches. He is still unconfirmed in this position, but if he can hold out a few more years as a coach, without completely crumbling he is up there. If he can maintain his current situation it is possible for him to pass some of the coaches ahead of him.
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well thought of but i dont really like the whole thing
 
MiamiDolfans said:
I am sorry, it is my ignorance that has made you blind to this. When you look at what an athletic quarterback is today, it often refers to quaterbacks of color.

Vick
Culpepper
McNabb

That's why I used it in quotations. You'll never hear anyone talk about Feidler, or any other actually athletic quarterback as an "athletic quaterback", it seems the name has been reserved for black quarterbacks. In all honesty that is what I had been referring to, he revolutionized the world of black quarterbacks.
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That he did my friend....in spades. Moon was one of the best QB's ive actually ever seen and doesnt get the credit he deserves. I personally dont look at color at any position...if youre good...then youre good. you are right though...without Moon who knows where the "black" QB would be. The game is better because of guys like Warren. For a few years there...he was throwing the ball up and down the field like Marino was. Good to hear his name being cisculated again. Good post. :D
 
Swann

LYNN SWANN IS THE MOST OVERRATED PLAYER IN NFL HISTORY!

YOUR LIST IS A JOKE!

IT'S FUNNY B/C YOU NEVER SAW 95% OF THE GUYS ON YOUR LIST PLAY!

Swann played 9 years:

336 catches

5462 yards

-NOT in the All-Time Top-50 in ANY MAJOR STATISTICAL CATEGORY.

Andre Reed:

16 years:

951 catches

13198 yards

-4th All-Time in catches

-6th in yards

-10th in TD's


Steve Largent:

13 years:

819 catches

13089 yards

100 TD's

-Retired as the All-Time Leader in catches, TD's, Yards, and consecutive games with a catch.

Art Monk:

15 years:

940 catches

12721 yards

-5th All-Time in catches. 9th in yards.

-During career held records for catches in season, career, and consecutive games.

SO, BEFORE COMING ON TO A MESSAGE BOARD AND MAKING AN UTTER FOOL OF YOURSELF YOU BETTER GO ON EBAY AND GET SOME MORE GAME FILM B/C LEAVING OFF LARGENT, MONK, AND REED IN FAVOR OF SWANN IS LAUGHABLE.

/Not to mention others like Charley Taylor, Lance Alworth, Fred Biletnikoff, and Charlie Joiner.

:shakeno:

..youngins...
 
btw/ you left off Alan Page, Bob Lilly, Randy White, and Merlin Olsen in favor of Dan Hampton and William Perry. Pretty pathetic.
 
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