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Analyzing the rushing stats of each team in 2013

No Wilson scrambles out to the sideline where Tannehill get sacked. Wilson hits wide open receivers because he buys himself more than 3 seconds by being elusive in the pocket. If you cant recognize that then i'm done with this thread. We will talk at the end of the season when Russel Wilson posts another +100 QBR for the season and you guys come up with more excuse for his success.

Which. of course, explains the higher sack rate and much larger number of "coverage sacks" taken by Wilson last season........:ponder:

Class dismissed.
 
All the bloviating aside, since this is a synergistic, co and inter-dependent team game, comparing Wilson to Tannehill is comparing apples to oranges. In 2 seasons Wilson rushed for 1028 yards, his 539 yards in '13 exceeded one of our featured RBs, Thomas's 406, and his 489 yds rushing in '12 wasn't too much less than the tandem of Miller and Thomas which produced 575 yards. It's true Reggie was doing the heavy lifting that year, but 1000 yards less strenuous than Lynch's and Turban's. Bad line play breeds ineffective rushing and vice versa! And then there was the reality that Tannehill had RBs who couldn't block for ****. Add the fact that Fasano, our redzone threat and TE blocking asset was never replaced in kind (half his replacement, Keller went down in TC) and that makes pass protection all the more abysmal.

So sure with our OL that ranked in the bottom 12.5% on average by 5 different analytical services per below, and a running game in pure production ranked in the bottom 18.75% of the league, Wilson, with his rushing statistics and escapability would have done better than Tannehill by neutralizing the godawful OL's blocking buying time to find his receivers as their defenders grew more fatigued or use his own feet to make first downs. And in that way, so far he's been better than Tannehill because he's got that mobility. But then again, so did RG3 and IMO whether you know how to protect yourself or not, keeping the ball in a QB's hands is like playing Russian Roulette.

This is all you really need to know:

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I'm amazed at the number of fans ...who claim to be knowledgeable and true observers of the game, fail to recognize that this is a team game and that surrounding cast obviously effects a QB ability to perform.

Nfl history shows example after example of mediocre quarterbacks that have rings due to elite defenses.

The trolls and haters may choose to ignore the obvious...but when You check out the outside opinions of Russell Wilson....the majority recognize the advantages he carries with the elite #1 defense....a very solid effective running game...and the best home field advantage in football.

They recognize that he is not asked to do as much, that the quality of his defense allows them to run a ball controlled high percentage passing game offense....which leads to team success and a good QB rating for the man who mostly is asked not to lose the game.
 
I'm amazed at the number of fans ...who claim to be knowledgeable and true observers of the game, fail to recognize that this is a team game and that surrounding cast obviously effects a QB ability to perform.

Nfl history shows example after example of mediocre quarterbacks that have rings due to elite defenses.

The trolls and haters may choose to ignore the obvious...but when You check out the outside opinions of Russell Wilson....the majority recognize the advantages he carries with the elite #1 defense....a very solid effective running game...and the best home field advantage in football.

They recognize that he is not asked to do as much, that the quality of his defense allows them to run a ball controlled high percentage passing game offense....which leads to team success and a good QB rating for the man who mostly is asked not to lose the game.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I will add this for the Wilson lovers - he has shown the ability to make plays. I believe he can be more than a game manager because of that. He should not be confused with Trent Dilfer, but there is no guarantee that he will be as efficient when asked to carry a bigger load. In fact, his college stats suggest that he will experience a drop-off when running an offense less run focused.
 
I'm amazed at the number of fans ...who claim to be knowledgeable and true observers of the game, fail to recognize that this is a team game and that surrounding cast obviously effects a QB ability to perform.

Nfl history shows example after example of mediocre quarterbacks that have rings due to elite defenses.

The trolls and haters may choose to ignore the obvious...but when You check out the outside opinions of Russell Wilson....the majority recognize the advantages he carries with the elite #1 defense....a very solid effective running game...and the best home field advantage in football.

They recognize that he is not asked to do as much, that the quality of his defense allows them to run a ball controlled high percentage passing game offense....which leads to team success and a good QB rating for the man who mostly is asked not to lose the game.

I think Tannehill is being held back by what's on the field, namely the terrible OL. But I also think that other QB's would be affected less by this line than he is because his ability to escape pressure is terrible, If Tannehill was on a team that could protect him, he'd be fine, but I have my doubts that he will pan out fully in Miami because I doubt we can do that. A natural pocket magician like Luck could.
 
That's also the same exact thing we were told some ten years ago which also happened the same year Peyton broke Marino's TD record.

Bingo, but... The 5 yard chuck rule was instated in '78 but wasn't strictly enforced until '96 and was then again revisited by the competition committee in '04, seemingly over Colts WR's being mauled by Patriot defenders down field in '03. And what do you know, walla, Marino's records begin to fall due to the league's emphasis of offense over defense. I'm assuming the NFL refs will adhere to it more from here on out since the league thrives on high scores and the average fans utter lack of knowledge and respect toward efficient defense. Also, let's not forget how much traffic is produced now days from featuring offense in the NFL's version of Dungeons and Dragons (aka Fantasy Football).
 
Bingo, but... The 5 yard chuck rule was instated in '78 but wasn't strictly enforced until '96 and was then again revisited by the competition committee in '04, seemingly over Colts WR's being mauled by Patriot defenders down field in '03. And what do you know, walla, Marino's records begin to fall due to the league's emphasis of offense over defense. I'm assuming the NFL refs will adhere to it more from here on out since the league thrives on high scores and the average fans utter lack of knowledge and respect toward efficient defense. Also, let's not forget how much traffic is produced now days from featuring offense in the NFL's version of Dungeons and Dragons (aka Fantasy Football).

I was just thinking today about how fantasy football is increasing the popularity of the sport and how the new rules may be there partially to allow more fantasy stats.
 
Right....all the sudden Marino's 48 gets beat in back to back years if I'm not mistaken?

Right after they tightened the enforcement.
 
Yeah, it won't be the first time they've tried to tighten up on the defenses to increase scoring.

It's my understanding that Dean Blandino was really taken to task after being presented with a big ol' **** sandwich of video from the Super Bowl showing blatant defensive penalties that went uncalled, which prompted this latest effort. That's the story that Ed Werder relayed on the radio, at least.

I think the best thing they can do at this point is expand the 'in the grasp' rule on quarterbacks to make it two-hand touch in the pocket. Now hear me out, I think this would actually be a good thing for people who value defensive football and rushing offense. You can protect those 15 or 16 guys who can play quarterback competently at this level, while actually helping the defense by making it easier to register sacks. Increasing sack totals should in turn incentivize the rushing game.
 
Right....all the sudden Marino's 48 gets beat in back to back years if I'm not mistaken?

Right after they tightened the enforcement.

Actually thought the same until I looked into it.

Manning broke it with 49 TD's in '04.

Then the only TD record broken in '05 was Shaun Alexander rushing for 28 and Carson Palmer led all QB's with 32 passing.

'06 featured more of the same from '05 as Ladanian Tomlinson broke it again with 31 rushing and Manning led all QB's with 31 passing.

Then came the avalanche of passing offense. '07 was when Brady tossed 50 TD's. '08 Brees flung 5,069 yards. And so on and so on, until now when the numbers have become so inflated due to rule changes it's become difficult to compare to the days of old.
 
Ok...memories are a funny thing...tks.

But I do remember accurately that Manning's 49 didn't come until after the changes.

I'm quite confident 48 would still be standing if not for those changes.
 
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