Another failed draft by ireland hurting this team. Zero contribution

[HarryBagpipe]

Talk to me in 3 years. I think we very well may like this draft a whole lot better from that vantage point. However, so far it gets poor grade for immediate impact.

Maybe. But I've heard that exact thing after every draft the past many years

 

[Gonzo]

Talk to me in 3 years. I think we very well may like this draft a whole lot better from that vantage point. However, so far it gets poor grade for immediate impact.

I don't expect mid-to-late round picks to contribute immediately, but a 3rd overall pick that we traded up for and a 2nd round CB when we desperately need CB help are another story. Same may be said for the 3rd rounders when they play two of the most needed positions on the team.

I will say that the Jordan issue doesn't appear to be on him. That looks like a very weird coaching decision, as he's looked really good, IMO, the few times he's been allowed to play.

 

[rent this space]

Week seven is a little early to judge a rookie class, imo

 

[Gonzo]

Week seven is a little early to judge a rookie class, imo

Nobody is judging them as players, as that would be impossible. We are judging the fact that of the entire draft class, we've only seen 3 of the players, 2 of which have been in extremely limited roles despite showing flashes (and the other is a kicker). There is also nothing wrong with questioning the picking of multiple injured players.

 

[rent this space]

Nobody is judging them as players, as that would be impossible. We are judging the fact that of the entire draft class, we've only seen 3 of the players, 2 of which have been in extremely limited roles despite showing flashes (and the other is a kicker). There is also nothing wrong with questioning the picking of multiple injured players.

the OP said "failed draft class", that's the judgement I was responding to. I agree it is frustrating that so few are playing and Jordan needs more PT, but you can't call it a failure yet.

 

[TannehillRules]

What did jeff ireland see in cb will davis to give away picks to move up and draft this guy?lol the great jeff ireland also gave away picks to trade up and draft the great daniel thomas lmao...

 

[WaxOn WaxOff]

Sorry to say, but this years draft was 90% "for the future".

The only two players I expected to contribute on a grand scale this year where Dion Jordan and Sturgis, and both are.

Jamar Taylor, Will Davis? IMO when drafted neither would be a "true" starter until next year, Grimes, Patterson, (Marshall), Carrol would all eat up the snaps.

Thomas? Pure depth at the time and future replacement to Incog in two years.

Jenkins? Pure depth LB with some upside to develop into a releavant LB.

Dion Sims? Pure depth TE with some upside to delvelop into a releavant TE. (At the time he would sit behind Keller, Clay, and Egnew....maybe beat out Egnew for 3rd TE)

Gillislee and Don Jones picks was just taking BPA on the board at the time. Jones has proven a solid ST contributer while Gillislee has shown nothing more than taking up a roster spot.

Not sure how someone looked at this draft and saw multiple day 1 starters from it.

Let's examine that.

1. Dion Jordan seems to be seeing limited playing time, just like in college. I hope this isn't a career path for him.

2. New England drafts a CB AFTER we draft not one but TWO CBs. Their CB is playing, made a HUGE impact against Miami while ours sits.

3. Dallas Thomas may just be the worst OL in draft to actually make a team. And he likely made the team JUST BECAUSE he was drafted third round. There is an OG drafted after him starting in this league.

4. The TE I have no issue with.

5. RB- Andre Ellington picked in Rd 7 is starting for Arizona, had 150+ yds and a TD last game. I suspect Gillislee will take a while to post such numbers, from his position of "depth".

6. K- OK, but why that round???? Because we traded UP for the SECOND corner we took, please refer back to number 2 in this list.

This draft was a FAIL of epic proportions.

 

[dolphinkee]

This would make very good sense if this team were a winner and not the 7-9 6-10 team we are used too. This post if true states why the GM should be fired, this team needs players that can play yesterday not next year.

Sorry to say, but this years draft was 90% "for the future".

The only two players I expected to contribute on a grand scale this year where Dion Jordan and Sturgis, and both are.

Jamar Taylor, Will Davis? IMO when drafted neither would be a "true" starter until next year, Grimes, Patterson, (Marshall), Carrol would all eat up the snaps.

Thomas? Pure depth at the time and future replacement to Incog in two years.

Jenkins? Pure depth LB with some upside to develop into a releavant LB.

Dion Sims? Pure depth TE with some upside to delvelop into a releavant TE. (At the time he would sit behind Keller, Clay, and Egnew....maybe beat out Egnew for 3rd TE)

Gillislee and Don Jones picks was just taking BPA on the board at the time. Jones has proven a solid ST contributer while Gillislee has shown nothing more than taking up a roster spot.

Not sure how someone looked at this draft and saw multiple day 1 starters from it.

 

[DeathStar]

Sign this guy to a 10 year deal....the patsies are going to steal him.

 

[normaniii]

This.

If Ireland/Philbin are gone everyone else is gone. Top to bottom.

Watching the Packers game last night, my jaw dropped when I heard that only three (3) players on the Packers roster had ever played for a team other than the Packers.

That is beyond amazing player scouting and development. No wasted money on top tier FA's either.

Great point. When Philbin was brought in, I was under the impression we would be a draft first team. When we traded Marshall & Davis, I thought it was with this philosophy in mind.

I was massively disappointed when we went out and overspent in Free Agency.

Jeff Irelands offseason screams of desperation and is a short term philosophy that smacks in the face of what we led to believe when Philbin was hired.

April 25th 2013. In a draft considered not to have elite talent, but great depth, we are in an ideal situation with 5 picks in first 3 rounds. With a roster devoid of depth, we decide to trade up and draft in a position of which we already have depth. I love Dion Jordan, but look back at 2013 draft and just consider what we could have done with first 5 picks.

Our D was very good last year and we drafted Olivier Vernon. We have a 2nd year QB, with questions along O'line and a lack of depth at offensive options.

Why didnt we go all out and build around Ryan Tannehill?

1st round - Tyler Eirfert or Cordarrelle Patterson

2nd Rounds - Menelik Watson, Eddie Lacy, Larry Warford or Keenan Allen

3rd round - Dallas Thomas (whom I like), Markus Wheaton, Jordan Reed, Stedman Bailey.

I havnt just picked out guys who are playing well. The 2nd & 3rd round options were all guys who were considered value and some whom fell during the draft. Look at the names and just consider our roster with 5 of these. Jeff Ireland gets paid millions, but this was obvious before draft. This could have set us up for years to come but no, due to past failures JI chooses the short term options.

 

[Sirspud]

This.

If Ireland/Philbin are gone everyone else is gone. Top to bottom.

Watching the Packers game last night, my jaw dropped when I heard that only three (3) players on the Packers roster had ever played for a team other than the Packers.

That is beyond amazing player scouting and development. No wasted money on top tier FA's either.

This begs the question of who is really responsible for the dominance in that organization. When you draft that well and never had anything less than a franchise passer as a starting QB, it's hard for a coaching staff NOT to have success. It certainly doesn't increase my faith in Philbin.

 

[Sirspud]

Sorry to say, but this years draft was 90% "for the future".

The only two players I expected to contribute on a grand scale this year where Dion Jordan and Sturgis, and both are.

Jamar Taylor, Will Davis? IMO when drafted neither would be a "true" starter until next year, Grimes, Patterson, (Marshall), Carrol would all eat up the snaps.

Thomas? Pure depth at the time and future replacement to Incog in two years.

Jenkins? Pure depth LB with some upside to develop into a releavant LB.

Dion Sims? Pure depth TE with some upside to delvelop into a releavant TE. (At the time he would sit behind Keller, Clay, and Egnew....maybe beat out Egnew for 3rd TE)

Gillislee and Don Jones picks was just taking BPA on the board at the time. Jones has proven a solid ST contributer while Gillislee has shown nothing more than taking up a roster spot.

Not sure how someone looked at this draft and saw multiple day 1 starters from it.

Even if these guys are the depth that they were intended to be, I can't see how that is a good draft strategy when other teams are getting future stars there.

 

[whizafriz]

The new coaching staff hopefully will not make the same mistakes

Haha, we're callin that already, huh?
I'll be honest, I'm running out of patience with Philbin and Sherman. These guys are always tinkering here and there with the team each week, but never just solid gameplans and highly needed personnel changes. We need to win, not just get "marginally better" each week. Ugh.