Bonedoc7777
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football is fixed, it has to be for that team to win with no offense at all
Anyone Still Doubt That Defense Wins Playoff Football
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2006 and 2001 are the only two superbowls I remember the winner winning because of a dominant defense.
steelers and ravens both gave up ten points repsectively.
steelers and ravens both gave up ten points repsectively.
If you have watched the Chargers this season they are a well oiled proficient offense that won 11 straight and was many folks favorite to win the Super Bowl. The reference not even close is not about the score. It's about the way the Jets smacked SD in the mouth and frustrated them on their home field. The Jets defense took that game over in the 3rd quarter and clamped down on SD.
The Jets have a chip on their shoulder after so many claimed they did not deserve to be in the play offs because the Colts laid down. That is going to be a huge chip for the Colts to knock off.
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so whats the wager than.
I never said I would bet on them. I said I wouldn't be surprised if they won.
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Anyone else notice with Rivers it is either Hero or Zero there is just no happy medium?!?!
Bonedoc7777
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the nfl is letting the jets win, they got a new stadium and cant sell the seat rights
You are correct, stop the run, play tough defense and run the football and you will have a chance to win the super bowl. That is why I think our offense only needs a stud TE and a veteran WR. We need players at the LBer position and we need to get younger at the OLBer position. The post a few weeks ago failed to mention the winner of the last 10 super bowls. Looking at that list should have been enough to end the debate, but some folks get fooled by a high scoring offense duriing the regular season and think thats the way to go. Lets take a look at the super bowl champions since 2000, starting from last yr and working our way down.
Pitt-Defense, run the ball
NYG-Defense that stop the highest scoring team in league history...footnote PATS havent won a superbowl after they abandoned the run and went with the high powered scoring offense.
Indy-only reason they won that yr was Defense, Dungy finally got a D that was able to get Manning his ring
Pitt-see above formula still working from previous yrs,this time by a rookie QB
Pats-Defense, Belicheat, running the football
Pats-Defense,Belicheat running the football after they signed the Bengals rb (cant think of his name)
Tampa Bay-Defense
Pats-defense, stopped the greatest show on turf
Ravens-Defense and trent dilfer was QB enough said.....
Rams-Greatest show on turf with a good defense
The Rams are the only team in ten yrs that you can actually say had a high powered offense and tried...did....outscore its competition.
If the colts D comes to play like it did against Balt they should get to the Super Bowl if they take this Jet team lightly look out. that d is feirce and they can run the football on anyone.
Give me a great D with a great running game any day of the week and I will be patient while we build that here.
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pitts defense gave up 23 pts. but did have one of the luckiest plays on that 100 yard int return I have ever seen.
indys offense put up 29 pts the year they won. thats a good formula for success.
tampa bay scored 48 pts, I don't know how many came from the defense, but even if its half thats still 24 pts.
I'd say the baltimore team is teh only team that you list that won the superbowl because of their defense.
nothing opens up a running game like the ability a big time WR brings to the table for an offense. nothing helps a defense like a run game that is successful with the help of a WR threat.
I guess you dont remember those Pats teams that did it with Defense, they have not won a super bowl since. Belicheat became a genius because of those Super Bowls and it wasnt because they scored 30 pts. How about Tampa Bay? These teams core is Defense, I'm not saying the offense is not going to score pts, Im saying the D is more important and with us avg 22 pts a game this yr is enough to get the job done if we had a top 5 D.
three missed field goals and 2 turnovers were the difference....the chargers had a large advantage in yards gained.....the SINGLE most important position on the field is QUARTERBACK....which means PASSING game....poor quarterbacks do not win super bowls period. IF ALL other phases of a team are outstanding and complete...SOMETIMES....the quarterback position can be overcome...but ONLY if he doesnt turn the ball over....we can build defense all we want....we wont win until we have elite quarterback play....meaning at least one of the top 8 quarterbacks in the game
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there offense averaged I believe 26 pts a game in there superbowls wins with the great d you are speaking of.
giving up 21, 29 and 17.
tampa bay scored 48.
I agree with your post of us though. 22 pts was enough for us to win most of our games.
how many pts did the tampa bay defense score in 2003?
this post is like saying everyteam that actually plays the game HAS a defense...no ****!....indy didnt win because of defense....pats teams were a BALL CONTROL PASSING TEAM that kept their defense off the field....ALL THREE TEAMS...there were NOT dominate defensive teams....they were MORE dominant offensively because of an efficient passing attack....they followed this model and stole wes welker from us and built their offense around him the past couple of years...and went 16-0 with it...play that superbowl 10 times they win it 8 and even dolphins fans know it. pittsburgh evolved into an offensive team under tomlin...they dont run the ball like they did under cowher....your post is inaccurate and biased by ur opinion
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Man is that guy overrated or what. He has such an awkward throwing motion, that sidearm pass he likes to throw at times that makes me cringe each time he does it. He hasn't done **** in the playoffs, same with Tomlinson. That team needs a new identity on offense.
I don't know what the heck they're missing though, maybe they need to fix their offensive line for their running backs can have a tiny hole to run through. But it seems like Tomlinson is running into his own teammates, they aren't opening anything for him.