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Average or Below Almost Everywhere You Look

Right now were are 26th in comparison to the league in Team Passer rating

1 San Diego 117
2 Denver 110.5
3 Green Bay 108.2
4 Cincinnati 101
5 Dallas 100.5
6 Seattle 100.1
7 Indianapolis 99.1
8 Cleveland 99
9 Baltimore 97.8
10 Chicago 97.5
11 New England 97.3
12 Carolina 97.1
13 San Francisco 96.5
14 Pittsburgh 94
15 NY Giants 94
16 New Orleans 91.8
17 Atlanta 91.6
18 Washington 90.1
19 Kansas City 88.8
20 Detroit 88.4
21 Arizona 88.1
22 St Louis 86.8
23 Houston 86.4
24 Buffalo 83.9
25 Philadelphia 82.1
26 Miami 81.5
27 Tennessee 79.8
28 Oakland 79.3
29 Tampa Bay 79.2
30 Jacksonville 78.2
31 NY Jets 67.4
32 Minnesota 63.6

yeah that just wont get it done...look at philly right in front of us yet they still score a ton of points...it's all about tempo...floors me miami hasnt picked it up yet other than one drive the other day which resulted in a 4 down stoppage by the pack...

some of those passer ratings dont reflect the players making them...at least to me they dont
 
yeah that just wont get it done...look at philly right in front of us yet they still score a ton of points...it's all about tempo...floors me miami hasnt picked it up yet other than one drive the other day which resulted in a 4 down stoppage by the pack...

some of those passer ratings dont reflect the players making them...at least to me they dont

You can pretty much see the Playoff teams at the top of the list.
 
Probably less than a 25% chance of that. Vegas had us pegged right at 7.5 wins and that's exactly where we are. I remember looking at odds the year Manning was going to come to Miami, our wins went up to 11. When he decided elsewhere, they went down to 8.

Come on. Don't try stuff like that when I'm around. That's the epitome of bar stool. There's a college football site with a few guys who make up betting oriented material and get away with it until I arrive. I'm not claiming it's a special talent, merely something I've been exposed to for decades so naturally you pick up the basics.

The sportsbooks aren't that stupid. Those season win over/unders go up late, after the free agency period. Peyton Manning signed in March. The first numbers showed up in late May, two months later.

Here's a link from that year, noting the first release of the over/unders. It is from late May and courtesy of an offshore site. None of the Nevada properties had gone up yet. Cantor did so a few days later:

http://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=274471&article

You'll note the mention in the article that the major offshore joint 5Dimes posted over/unders after the Super Bowl but yanked them during the free agency period. That was a standard practice years ago but now the books are hesitant to go that route. Nobody posts them and leaves them up when all the pivotal decisions are being made.

Denver was moved upward to 9.5 and 10, after Manning's signing was known. That should demonstrate the Dolphins would not have been adjusted all the way up to 11. As I've emphasized, there is math involved. You can't merely guess a number and say that sounds good. For a team to have a season win total of 11 it means their average projected pointspread needs to be 5.5 point favoritism. That's home and road. The posters here who assign 11 wins to the Dolphins prior to the season don't seem to have any comprehension of the burden required. Heck, we'll win all the toss up games and many as underdog. That finds its way to 11. No problem.

I'll allow benefit of a doubt and say you might have read somebody who claimed the Dolphins would have been set at 11 upon Manning's arrival. But that was a bar stool caliber guess. The 11 never existed and was not bettable.
 
i dont even know what the qbs qbr numbers and ratings are relative to the rest of the league but i do know that this TEAM is not good enough talent wise to make the postseason unless the qb elevates his level of play...tannehill is the x factor...but this teams not good enough where average qb play means postseason...it's just not

PFF has loved Tannehill. They now rank him #16 on individual grades passing, and #26 when they go to including stats. They are seeing the same things we all are.
 
No raising the white flag until there is not coming back. It is too early.

A victory over the Bears and Jags and this feels a heck of a lot different.

I get the skepticism however, it certainly is never easy for us. But this team is capable of beating almost anybody.....if they can simply get out of their own way.


That is exactly it, you hit it right on the button. Miami can be in any game, win any game, but their biggest obstacle each week does seem to be themselves.
 
yeah that just wont get it done...look at philly right in front of us yet they still score a ton of points...it's all about tempo...floors me miami hasnt picked it up yet other than one drive the other day which resulted in a 4 down stoppage by the pack...

some of those passer ratings dont reflect the players making them...at least to me they dont

Most of them do. Let's examine the only teams below us on the list.........

Tennessee - Jake Locker and Charlie Whitehurst. Yea. that is bad.

Oakland - Starting a rookie with not much talent around him. Their coaching situation is as bad as it gets as well.

Tampa Bay - They would be ahead of us if the FO and coaches were not morons and had started Glennon from week 1. Josh McCown killed them. Playing while facing huge deficits ever game does not help either. Lovie Smith :lol:

Jacksonville - Chad Henne and a rookie combined for this rating. Enough said.

Jests - Worst QB situation in the league. Geno's Myth and the overhyped and worthless Vick.

Minnesota - Cassel gets injured and they have to play Ponder and Bustwater. That will drop your ratings like CK on a show about the draft. :lol:

We have some pretty good WRs and an OL that has played well. We had a few games where the rushing attack looked great. Despite this, we have one of the worst passing ratings in the league. The only situations we are currently beating are listed there. It just is not pretty. Hennehill is a bottom 5 NFL starter. He simply should not be a starter. I am certain there are backups in this league who are better players than he is. One of them is on our bench.
 
That is exactly it, you hit it right on the button. Miami can be in any game, win any game, but their biggest obstacle each week does seem to be themselves.

True but, the boatload of blunders so far is not inspiring much confidence.
 
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