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Beginning of dec., Ireland told his job is safe

No one could have seen the Incognito blow up coming.

Except for EVERY other team that he played for.

Offensive line. Philbin's strong point.

Like the meatball before him. How did that work out for us? Ireland has failed 2x in building this line and you masochists want to let him try again?

when the line imploded, so did everything else

Not really, it was the same average team, except our pass blocking IMPROVED without Irelands guys, Martin and Incog.

If Sparano was here I can assure you we would have punched and at least knocked out a tooth.........

No Sparano's teams choked at the end of the season just like this one.

I am Easily satisfied by the very best

Yes I can tell.
 
We were on the edge of making the playoffs a month ago too. A lot feel apart since then.

I didn't want him a year ago or a month ago, but for those that did - when new information presents itself (like Irelands team lack of talent completely exposing itself in those last 2 games) why would anyone ignore it and refuse to reassess their previous position. stubbornness or arrogance?
 
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The reason this team didn't make the playoffs was because the players quit on the coaching staff. Shermin, Coyle and Philbin were being out coached and out schemed by every team. It was obvious to everyone. They were (Philbin, Coyle, Shermin) living in a bubble of self assurance. The players soon realized that the staff had no answers and they were being blamed for poor performances when actually the coaches were putting them in bad positions. Philbins lack of criticism of Shermin, and in fact his support of Shermin was the final straw. The team was not beaten, the players quit. The only way to fix this is to clean house.
 
Except for EVERY other team that he played for.



Like the meatball before him. How did that work out for us? Ireland has failed 2x in building this line and you masochists want to let him try again?



Not really, it was the same average team, except our pass blocking IMPROVED without Irelands guys, Martin and Incog.



No Sparano's teams choked at the end of the season just like this one.



Yes I can tell.

I personally felt it was a bad day in Miami when Sparano was let go. He did not deserve how he was treated.

So let me get this straight. You are saying that every team Incognito played for, knew, that at some point in his career, Incognito would be tasked with toughening up a player that had no business even being in this league less alone Incognito's "friend". That Incognito would allegedly use racial slurs and poor judgement when attempting to do what he was asked. That this person (Martin) would be questioningly unstable and will have, allegedly, at least 3 times pondered suicide. Incognito was supposed to know this information so that he could steer clear of being the leader he was/is.

Your assertion that our pass blocking improved is laughable. 58 sacks......definitely an improvement

Never said Sparano teams didn't choke. What I said was that even though losing at lease we would have had fun knocking their teeth out in the process. If there is one thing that Sparano teams were , is they were stout.

If you want to poke fun at me personally by quoting my signature you may want to try something different.............maybe intellectual conversation. Oh yea for the record.....I never said I was satisfied with this season or this staff.
 
really?

In what way?

Because he feels since he has been successful in business he actually knows what he is doing in football. As a business the dolphins have been run bad and as a football team we get the same mediocre results while he makes hollow promises. Ireland has been the Gm for 6 damn years but people feel like he is not to blame, he is the one constant in our mediocrity. I mean sure if u give him 10 years maybe u make the playoffs a couple of times but hell any gm could have that result
 
I personally felt it was a bad day in Miami when Sparano was let go. He did not deserve how he was treated.

So let me get this straight. You are saying that every team Incognito played for, knew, that at some point in his career, Incognito would be tasked with toughening up a player that had no business even being in this league less alone Incognito's "friend". That Incognito would allegedly use racial slurs and poor judgement when attempting to do what he was asked. That this person (Martin) would be questioningly unstable and will have, allegedly, at least 3 times pondered suicide. Incognito was supposed to know this information so that he could steer clear of being the leader he was.

Your assertion that our pass blocking improved is laughable. 58 sacks......definitely an improvement

Never said Sparano teams didn't choke. What I said was that even though losing at lease we would have had fun knocking their teeth out in the process. If there is one thing that Sparano teams were , is they were stout.

If you want to poke fun at me personally by quoting my signature you may want to try something different.............maybe intellectual conversation. Oh yea for the record.....I never said I was satisfied with this season or this staff.

You confuse me, you want excellence AND wanted to keep Meatball.

Then you defend the molester Icognito, who has repeatedly demonstrated bad behavior to the degree that he has been kick of EVERY team he has ever played for. Its a pattern, Ireland should have seen it coming, its his job, especially AFTER the golf incident. Who drafted Martin again? Who went into this season relying on him to be the starting LT? The idiot GM you are desperately trying to defend.

Laughable? Our Pass blocking improved with McKinnie. Look up the stats, they have been posted in 100s of the threads. It dropped like 2 full sacks a game without those two.

Then you go back to Morono defending, if you think field goals and windmill fist pumps are exciting, I'm speechless. They pissed me off to no end.
 
I mean sure if u give him 10 years maybe u make the playoffs a couple of times but hell any gm could have that result

Its not just that. That frame of mind would mean that no one should ever be fired because its just all bad luck. Because if the calls go our way here or there....maybe the ball bounced this way instead of that way and suddenly we are 12-4, not 8-8, so things aren't really bad at all. They are fantastic.
 
Its not just that. That frame of mind would mean that no one should ever be fired because its just all bad luck. Because if the calls go our way here or there....maybe the ball bounced this way instead of that way and suddenly we are 12-4, not 8-8, so things aren't really bad at all. They are fantastic.

5 goddamn years of non winning football and yet people feel like we are on some path to glory lol
 
5 goddamn years of non winning football and yet people feel like we are on some path to glory lol

lol I don't get it either.

I understand that some people are afraid of change because it could always bring something worse, however I personally can't live life that way. There are risks we take everyday in life, change is something that happens whether you want to or not. Sometimes its for the better, sometimes its for the worst, but you got to keep moving forward.

Even if you just condense the last 2 seasons and focus on Philbin's time here alone, I don't see how people can say we are on the right path.

I've seen this movie before, and it doesn't end well.
 
i wouldn't be surprised if Ross is just using the dolphins as a giant tax writeoff. Can't sell tickets? oh drat....

I have no faith that he actually wants to field a decent product.

**** owner, **** GM, and a **** team.

They all deserve each other.
 
Losing the final two games to the Bills/Jets by a combined score of 39-7 and missing the playoffs should mean that no ones job is safe.
 
I didn't like that sendoff picture for Dan Dierdorf yesterday, the one that CBS showed during the telecast. Jeff Ireland was in the photo, beaming at far left. It didn't seem like a choice the franchise would make if Ireland's job were in jeopardy based on the result of one game.
 
I didn't like that sendoff picture for Dan Dierdorf yesterday, the one that CBS showed during the telecast. Jeff Ireland was in the photo, beaming at far left. It didn't seem like a choice the franchise would make if Ireland's job were in jeopardy based on the result of one game.

Coke is a helluva drug.
 
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