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Big O's message to Tua

Completely disagree. It's very practical. They teach you to fall down properly in various disciplines. Judo for example.

Tua's body basically goes limp, and he allows the defender to do whatever it wants. It's a big problem if he's going have a future.

Then there's stuff like this:
In a freefall situation I agree, but most times a sacked QB is wrapped up and lacks the ability to maneuver his body into safe falling positions.
 
Looking at the Play against Green Bay It would appear to me Tua is more concerned with falling on his hip as opposed to his head. The way he was tackled it looked like he spun around to avoid falling on his hip as he was going down and wound up falling on his back. It looks like he should have fallen face first, he was tackled from behind, how did he fall backward? It didn't look to me that the defender actually spun him around I think it was more a reaction from Tua as he was starting to turn. Unless his legs somehow got tangled up, just looks like an odd sequence of events...
 
Looking at the Play against Green Bay It would appear to me Tua is more concerned with falling on his hip as opposed to his head. The way he was tackled it looked like he spun around to avoid falling on his hip as he was going down and wound up falling on his back. It looks like he should have fallen face first, he was tackled from behind, how did he fall backward? It didn't look to me that the defender actually spun him around I think it was more a reaction from Tua as he was starting to turn. Unless his legs somehow got tangled up, just looks like an odd sequence of events...

You might be on to something there and we so quickly forget his hip injury in College that Im sure he lives with every day.

Watching the video I disagree with Big O about how Tua must play and what he must do. If he "quickly" releases the ball you will see the same Tua you have been seeing. Its exactly how he has been playing to avoid contact. A really successful NFL QB (*J.Allen anyone) must have the wits and ability to scramble when its there. If not then that a long long 10 yds to pickup and drives stall. Thing is...Tua cannot afford the contact so he must play the quick throw even if nobody is open to throw it too...many times that leads to INTS
 
You might be on to something there and we so quickly forget his hip injury in College that Im sure he lives with every day.

Watching the video I disagree with Big O about how Tua must play and what he must do. If he "quickly" releases the ball you will see the same Tua you have been seeing. Its exactly how he has been playing to avoid contact. A really successful NFL QB (*J.Allen anyone) must have the wits and ability to scramble when its there. If not then that a long long 10 yds to pickup and drives stall.
No doubt something as catastrophic as his hip injury lives in his head.
I think his main issue is trying to extend plays when nothing is there. He leaves himself open as a target. When things begin to break down, he has to realize that quickly and either immediately run with it or throw it away. He has to learn to live for the next play, he's trying to do too much. May have been able to do that against college players but not at this level, they're much too quick and hopefully he begins to realize that...
 
How is he going to learn to fall down? We're talking about a handful of plays per season. He's slung to the ground and his head is on the opposite side of that. He can't relocate his head. And heads are so heavy they tend to jostle around, as evidenced by those slow motion car crash simulations.

That topic sounds good but the practical application is almost zero. There's no way to avoid those handful of whiplash plays per season, when a much larger player is tossing him around. Tua needs better helmeting.

He does need to learn how to be more cautious while running upfield. Tua has long been overly confident and reckless on those plays and somehow even moreso in the NFL. If we want to say he needs lessons on that type of play, I agree. But very, very seldom does a quarterback make meaningful improvement in that area. You either own the ability to quickly make yourself small, or you don't. Griese and Tarkenton didn't have to be taught. Nor Russell Wilson. Robert Griffin never would have figured it out if he spent 15 years in the league.

I didn't watch the video. Tua definitely needs to get rid of the ball quicker, for production purposes along with health. Ever since his rookie season I've cringed when he pauses in the pocket. The longer the play goes, the more his lefty advantage is nullified, and the more his comparatively weak arm becomes a factor. Elite athletes at the position benefit from extending the play. Tua does not qualify.
Wrong
 
Completely disagree. It's very practical. They teach you to fall down properly in various disciplines. Judo for example.

Tua's body basically goes limp, and he allows the defender to do whatever it wants. It's a big problem if he's going have a future.

Then there's stuff like this:
Yep pro wrestlers work on that so they don’t have concussions and not have their heads slam on the mats hard
 
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