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  1. Dajesus

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    In the interview where Jarvis was bashing Ryan he also said his role in our offense was, “blanket.” I’m assuming he meant safety blanket. As much as we hate his interview I have to admit this was his role for much of his time here. What I’m curious about was this role more dictated because of his skill set, or Ryan needing that. I am hopeful this role will not be replaced, and we will take more shots down feild with all of our new speed. If someone fills this role i would think Danny. What do you guys think?
     
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    Either that or he could not get down field and open fast enough, so Gase just used him at what he was good at 5 yard routes
     
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    It was both skill set and need. I'm assuming the idea is instead of just Jarvis running those routes, now there will be Drake, Ballage, Gesicki, Amendola, Wilson, etc. to spread it around and be less predictable. Cool with it in theory.

    Do I think a safety blanket is all Landry is capable of? **** no.
     
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    every team has a check down dude and every team has a "possession" receiver. Landry was that.

    RT was one of the best in 2016 at deeper throws. he didnt need a "security blanket" any more than any other qb.

    you'll see how Landry does this fall. i think the "Landry yards" this yr will go to Amendola and Wilson.
     
  5. uk_dolfan

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    Whatever his role was, it was far too big and should never be replaced.

    A slot wr should never be 'the guy' if Parker cant step up, find someone with a similar skillset to replace him.
     
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    And tyrod /Mayfield won't need a blanket??
     
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    I think he's mad that Ryan took his blankey away. My daughters used to throw a tantrum when I would take there blankey away.
     
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    I think Jarvis is getting salty because not fans were not broken up because he left. Landry plays with a high intensity and fights for yards and I will miss that, but I don’t think he does so mich his production can be made up in a number of ways.
     
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    Any one who actually watches this team will understand a few things. Through all of the head coaches and OC's since Tannehill came in to the league, including before Jarvis even got there.....the Offense has had to be simplified almost every year including last year and it has had NOTHING to do with the QB and everything to do with OL protection which has been an issue EVERY YEAR since 2012, to include last year. When your offense is simplified and majority of passes must get out in 2.5 seconds or less, Jarvis Landry is going to get a lot of passes thrown his way as he is quick to initially get open. Landry's TD's went up last year and Gase said Landry was specifically targeted last year to try to get more TD opportunities, how ever his YPC went WAAAAAAAAYYYYY down without Tannehill. So if he was anyone's security blanket, it was Cutlers. Tannehill was also a league leader in 2016 with passes traveling over 20 yards in the air before he got hurt and he has always been a good intermediate passer, his long ball has just got better over the last few years. Landry is a great possession/slot receiver and has a nose for the endzone when he catches some of those passes........what he isn't and never will be is a guy who can create separation consistently to be a #1 down field receiver. He is too slow and lacks size. If anything the QB's including Tannehill who threw to him in Miami have been his security blanket, allowing him to have a crap load of receptions....so he should be thankful.

    Bottom line though is Landry is not a complete receiver and Tyrod, Mayfield, or any other QB are not going to make him anything we have not already seen. He may put up similar numbers with Tyrod as he does not throw deep a lot and does not take a lot of chances....so I wonder if he will be his security blanket, which I would find funny as hell for the 1 trick overpaid pony who needs to keep his mouth shut and just play football!
     
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    I agree on that but our check down, or “blanket” has caught 100 balls every year for the past 4.
     
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    I thought Miami signed Michael Jackson's son Blanket.
     
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    It seems to me we did take shots downfield with him in recent years, it just rarely worked. He was never a good deep threat.
     
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    see 67 Stang's response as to why we threw short passes.
     
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    Remind me why we are talking about a player that isnt a Dolphin?!
     
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    Hard to get broken up over a slot receiver demanding top 5 money. Yeah, I know he got it...just glad it wasn't us who gave it to him.
     
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    I think he will probably do worse with Tyrod Taylor, who isn't a particularly good short or intermediate passer, but excels at deep vertical passes and on the scramble drill. I think Josh Gordon and Corey Coleman are going to be the guys who see the most action with Taylor at quarterback. That's why I find it particularly interesting that Landry is talking up Taylor so much given the brewing quarterback controversy in Cleveland. He should be all in on Mayfield's corner.

    Now, don't get me wrong, I think Landry can do more than just catch short crossers and screens, and I think he will be productive in Cleveland, but Josh Gordon is EASILY the best receiver on that team, and also the best fit for Tyrod Taylor. Corey Coleman is also an underrated young player, and if he stays healthy I think Jarvis is going to be pretty steamed about how little he is targeted.
     
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    Tyrod's yards per pass is much lower than Tannehill's......Tyrod is a safe passer as he was labeled as being too safe in Buffalo. Tannehill also completes passes at a higher %. Tyrod does use his legs to make a few plays here and there but he is much more of a game manager than even Tannehill is and will take the safe short throw every time it is there.
     
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    Guys, it’s time to move on from Landry. He was a good possession receiver when he was with Miami but his time came and gone. Over the next few years he will probably come to realize he isn’t as good as his buddy obj and really is only meant for under routes. We as a fan base will come to realize that role can be done just as well by a lot of other players not commanding $14mil+ a year.

    He’s being salty now because his ego was hurt and that shouldn’t be affecting us as a fan base one bit. I suggest we move on and focus more on the guys who will help the fins win this year.
     
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    I don't get the narrative that Taylor can't throw the deep ball.

    If you compare him and Tannehill over the last 3 years played they are very similar. Taylor has completed more balls thrown over 20 yards in the air, more TD's thrown over 20 yards in the air and has a better completion ratio on passes thrown more than 20 yards in the air. Tannehill has a slightly better interception ratio on deep balls. Both very close.

    Taylor 2015-2017

    58 of 171 (33.9%) for 18 TD's and 7 Ints

    Tannehill 2014-2016

    46-146 (31.5%) for 14 TD's and 7 Ints
     
  20. FinfanInBuffalo

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    Only one of the two (Taylor) had the proper amount of time to make those deep throws. Only one of the two (Taylor) had a rushing offense that was the primary focus of the defense. Only one of the two (Tannehill) had idiots calling plays for two of the years that seemed to hate play action passing and throwing on the run.

    The fact that Tannehill had similar success under far more difficult circumstances speaks volumes.

    The dramatic rise in his numbers on passes over 20 yards in the air in 2016 was no accident.

    More info - http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachp...best-deep-ball-thrower-via-deep-ball-project/
     
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    Taylor makes time with his legs. The 2 are very similar even if you will never admit it. The sample size for Tannehill in 2016 was small. 16 completions. I'm not sure how 16 completions in 2016 compared to 21 in 2015 is a dramatic improvement. The results were better with more TD's but the overall completion percentage is very similar. Ryan actually threw 4 Interception on deep passes in 2016 which is a drastic change for the worse to go along with improvements in TD's
     
  22. FinfanInBuffalo

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    Here is a comparison from 2016 with Tannehill and Taylor: https://brickwallblitz.com/2017/03/26/the-2016-17-deep-ball-project-part-33/
     
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    Tyrod throws a good deep ball, the problem is that's the only throw he makes well. He is afraid to take chances and throw picks, and he has the second most rushing attempts in the NFL as a QB since 2015 (happy feet). He always puts up a good TD - INT ratio, which is his bread and butter. The problem is against good and disciplined defenses he is basically worthless because being ultra conservative can only take you so far.

    http://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bi...aguars-should-end-tyrod-taylor-era-in-buffalo
     
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    Sorry I don't subscribe to the deep passer accuracy takes. The ball is either completed or it isn't. The defense isn't going to adjust and give you a different look until you burn them for the long TD. Hitting the guy in the hands does nothing to help your offense unless it is completed for the long gain. And the accuracy is all subjective. It's one persons point of view. The final split stats tell the real story to me.
     
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    The argument that Taylor is a poor deep passer is completely insane, specifically because the only reason Tyrod Taylor has held a starting job / is currently holding a starting job is that he is a very good deep vertical thrower. He's a fine starter for any team that is run-heavy with lots of vertical PA looks.
     
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    Agreed

    We handled Wes Welker the same way so at least the dolphins are consistent with their value of a slot receiver.

    We didn't miss Mike Wallace and and he was a wideout we wont miss a slot receiver. Especially with Grant ,the addition of Danny Amendola and Rookie Mike Gisicki.

    I dont love that Landry left the team but I wont miss him for the Browns type of money.
     
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    I agree it’s highly likely we will hear grumbling from Jarvis this season...
     
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    LOL. Nonsense. The stats are for the performance of the QB. He cannot help it if a WR drops a deep pass (see Kenny Stills, week 1 2016 vs Seattle). And, you have no idea if a defense adjusts after a play like that. Your opinion is no, mine is hell yes. And it is irrelevant as to whether the QB is an accurate deep ball thrower.
     
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    We didn't have a TE that could be that "blanket".....we also didn't start Drake till later on the year so Landry was the short passing game for us. I hope we never again target a guy 160 if that guy will get less than 9 ypc. If a guy will get you 15 ypc then by all means do it. For a guy that said he wanted to be here he sure sounds like he's happy to be gone or maybe he's just bitter? Either way he's gone and we need to move on.
     
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    he mad. send him postcards from Miami when Cleveland hits 12 degrees in December!
     
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    If you really want to know how accurate Tyrod Taylor is on short and medium range passes, just look at these little nuggets of facts...

    In the red zone, Taylor comp% is 55%
    in the tight red, which is 10 yards or less, he's 48.5%
     
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    Landry won't give a **** that it's 12 degrees in December, if Cleveland has a better record than Miami.
     

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