BREAKING NEWS: "Williams ordered to PAY BACK 8.6 Million."

[Section126]

Since when can a court rule on which NFL team owns a certain player's rights? That is just a moronic point of debate.....

 

[Lawrence]

Lawrence, sometimes being politically correct isn't correct. Stop defending the him. Would anyone defend Ricky if he was doing what Lawrence said I do, which is "clean toilets"? If he quit cleaning toilets, told everyone he smoked marijuana, and said that he would be forced to file bankruptcy so he could feed his kids?

I'm not defending him, I'm simply saying that nobody has the right to judge hims as a parent; as far as football goes, bash him like crazy!

 

[LOCAL SCUM!]

I'm not defending him, I'm simply saying that nobody has the right to judge hims as a parent; as far as football goes, bash him like crazy!

The future, Conan?

 

[Philter25]

I'm not defending him, I'm simply saying that nobody has the right to judge hims as a parent; as far as football goes, bash him like crazy!

Im going to judge him like a parent. I think he is a horrible role model. What do his kids have to look up to? My daddy quit his job to do drugs and live in a tent?

Give me a break!

 

[texasPHINSfan]

I'm not defending him, I'm simply saying that nobody has the right to judge hims as a parent; as far as football goes, bash him like crazy!

any person who is a parent themself has a right to judge him as a parent. The ability to judge someone is like the ability to have an opinion - we cannot deny anyone the right to do such a thing. Let's not be so naive here - political correctness CAN run amok!

 

[Dphins4me]

ok this is my last post in this thread.

if you take anything away from my comments, take this:

an NFL contract and NFL rights are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
the courts will rule on the playing contract.... they have no say over the rights.... this is a separate issue.

VOIDED CONTRACT. Read those words and understand that.

US backruptcy laws allow them to void contracts. They can void RW deal with Miami.

Now as I posted above. I would then think his rights would fall under the barginned guidelines with the NFLPA.

They are set that any player with 4 or more years of service not under contract will be a UFA. Fran/Trans. Tags not applied.

This means RW would be a FA.

if Ricky files for bankruptcy, he won't financially OWE the dolphins anything. but if he ever comes back to the NFL, the dolphins have his rights through 2006 (or 2007?), whichever he was originally signed through.

peace out.

It will depend on what the courts rule. They may grant RW bankruptcy but not void his current deal with Miami. In that case. What you posted above is correct.

However they can also do what I posted above. Voiding his contract, making him a FA.

 

[texasPHINSfan]

Dphins, we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

cheers for the clean debate.

 

[Dphins4me]

Since when can a court rule on which NFL team owns a certain player's rights? That is just a moronic point of debate.....

They are not ruling on his rights. They would be ruling on his contract.

If voided then RW would most likely fall under the barginned guidelines with the NFLPA.

They say a player with 4 or more years of service not under contract is a FA.

Since the courts voided his deal, then RW would no longer be under contract and he has been in the NFL longer than 4 years, so he mets the guidelines for FA.

 

[Dphins4me]

Dphins, we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

cheers for the clean debate.

Ditto. You respect me, I respect you.

 

[Lawrence]

any person who is a parent themself has a right to judge him as a parent. The ability to judge someone is like the ability to have an opinion - we cannot deny anyone the right to do such a thing. Let's not be so naive here - political correctness CAN run amok!

Its really not about being P.C. Us as fans have every right to criticize him for what he's done to the team, but even as parents, nobody has any right to call someone else a bad parent. That's up to the courts and God, if they believe in him. I know we are all angry, but seriously, to talk about parenting is just way off base.

 

[texasPHINSfan]

Its really not about being P.C. Us as fans have every right to criticize him for what he's done to the team, but even as parents, nobody has any right to call someone else a bad parent. That's up to the courts and God, if they believe in him. I know we are all angry, but seriously, to talk about parenting is just way off base.

to some extent, yes.... but keep in mind he was throwing that aspect of it in his defense about the Dolphins coming after his money. If you are concerned about people judging him for his parenting styles, why can you not judge him for whoring out that alleged responsibility to get him out of trouble?

 

[Dol-Fan Dupree]

Its really not about being P.C. Us as fans have every right to criticize him for what he's done to the team, but even as parents, nobody has any right to call someone else a bad parent. That's up to the courts and God, if they believe in him. I know we are all angry, but seriously, to talk about parenting is just way off base.

I disagree 100%. I have every right to call someone a bad parent, when they are a bad parent.

 

[Lawrence]

I disagree 100%. I have every right to call someone a bad parent, when they are a bad parent.

Technically you have every right to say whatever, that doesn't make it the right thing to say

 

[Lawrence]

to some extent, yes.... but keep in mind he was throwing that aspect of it in his defense about the Dolphins coming after his money. If you are concerned about people judging him for his parenting styles, why can you not judge him for whoring out that alleged responsibility to get him out of trouble?

I can see your point of him using that as defense, so that subject being fair game. I guess personally, I just would rather keep my criticism of him or any player football related, seeing as how I don't live with him and observe his parenting. I guess well agreee to disagree as well.

 

[texasPHINSfan]

I can see your point of him using that as defense, so that subject being fair game. I guess personally, I just would rather keep my criticism of him or any player football related, seeing as how I don't live with him and observe his parenting. I guess well agreee to disagree as well.

see, 9 times out of 10 your argument would be 100% valid.... keep comments on their football game. But the second they introduce another factor or variable, it becomes fair game for criticism.

so actually.... we agree.