Akronfinfan36
Please win another title before I die
He's a Buckeye...and as all 'still-bitter Canes fans' know...all Buckeyes suck.
I definitely don't back way from my Jordy Nelson "light" comparison for B.H. I would like to see him stay upright a little bit more but regardless very underrated Wr! Great Hands, Deceptive speed and route running
Hartline would do better than Jordy Nelson in the GB offense imo, he has everything you're looking for in a west coast type receiver, I don't understand why he gets so much hate around here...
I think Jordys is quicker, faster and overall bigger
I do agree with the bigger part, but the quickness and speed is almost parallel. Jordy might edge Hartline out just a little bit.
Hartline isn't the biggest, fastest or strongest guy, but he finds a way to get open quite a bit. Did you see some of those timing routes he ran in that video? The WCO is all about timing and space, and Hartline has shown an ability to get the timing right as well as get space.
He also did a GREAT job of shielding defenders away from him. Hartline seems like a jack of all trades to me. He's not great at anything, but he's good in just about every part of his game. Above average quickness and speed, good at picking balls off the turf, can make a spectacular catch, has the awareness to make a move after he catches a ball (when he's not falling down), boxes out defenders so only he can get the ball, runs nice routes.
While Hartline may not be a specialty receiver, he's definitely a guy that can stay on the field for all three downs.
I've made that same observation here about a month ago speculating that based on a similar size, clean route running and reliable hands, Philbin sees something of Jordy in Hartline, especially in context to the WC offense. And as such, consistent with his vision, there was no urgency to draft a WR in the early rounds.
Before we can consider Hartline a good receiver, he needs to make more headlines on ESPN. He needs to show he is willing to do what it takes to be a number 1 receiver. Everyone knows the quality of wr play is determined by how many headlines you have on ESPN. Axe or other cheesy commercial help too. Time for him to FINALLY step up.
One thing I like about Hartline is he has excellent footwork along the sideline...the way he is able to drag his feet as he makes the catch going out-of-bounds, beautiful.
Definetly need to work on how to get YAC...is it routes? Is it the gym?, Is it his lack of spark, or quickness? His hand are amazing, but his separation and elusiveness isn´t. He´s hitting the deck in almost every catch, how much of that was Henne´s fault, is the question, but even on deep routes, catch, and slam to the floor... Couldn´t even outrun Ball from Dallas, who´s as bad as can be...We have good posssesion pass catchers, but it´s a Gates type WR who we desperately need the most!! Is Gates the guy? Hasn´t shown anything yet. I was hoping for a stud MLB or S in next year´s draft, but best WR available might be the biggest need!!
Seriously doubt it. Cam Wake is no spring chicken and I have my doubts about Vernon. If any of the top 4 pass rushers are there when we pick in the 1st, I fully expect a DE/OLB pass rusher.
Well played. I had a feeling that was sarcasm.it's ok Killerphins, my sarcasim font wasn't on.![]()
Oh i completely agree! I except Hartline to excel more under this coaching staff than any other returning player.