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There's been successful transitions among a few Japanese wrastlers. thats a different sports culture altogether though. I know Butterbean, killed Sean O'hare in like 2 minutes. I don't think thier training is up to snuff to compete with true mma pros. Brock is a freak though, and the fight should be somewhat entertaining(depending on how inexperienced his opponent is)...but put him in against any competent mma heavyweight, and i dont think his natural ability will take him too too far. kurt angle thinks he could beat tito ortiz, which is not only a joke, but an insult. he wouldn't fair well in mma either. guys like matt lindland make the transition from wrestler to mma pro look easy. true blue wrestlers like mark kerr, mark coleman, kevin randleman are not top fighters anymore, sad to say...and kurt angle certainly wouldnt do better than any of these guys. so, in a nut shell, wrastlers are wrastlers, and fighters are fighters.

(didnt mean to confuse anyone with wrestlers/wrastlers) true wrestling is an awesome background to have going into mma.


Duh.. I totally forgot about Japan. Now, wasn't Tsuyoshi Kosaka, the only guy to have a win over Fedor Emelianenko (I know.. it was a cut later determined as an illegal elbow) once in pro-wrestling?

What I don't know is whether RINGS was more of a pro-wrestling organization when Kosaka was there or not.

Anyway, thanks for the info.
 
There's been successful transitions among a few Japanese wrastlers. thats a different sports culture altogether though. I know Butterbean, killed Sean O'hare in like 2 minutes. I don't think thier training is up to snuff to compete with true mma pros. Brock is a freak though, and the fight should be somewhat entertaining(depending on how inexperienced his opponent is)...but put him in against any competent mma heavyweight, and i dont think his natural ability will take him too too far. kurt angle thinks he could beat tito ortiz, which is not only a joke, but an insult. he wouldn't fair well in mma either. guys like matt lindland make the transition from wrestler to mma pro look easy. true blue wrestlers like mark kerr, mark coleman, kevin randleman are not top fighters anymore, sad to say...and kurt angle certainly wouldnt do better than any of these guys. so, in a nut shell, wrastlers are wrastlers, and fighters are fighters.

(didnt mean to confuse anyone with wrestlers/wrastlers) true wrestling is an awesome background to have going into mma.

I'm confused is it wrastler or wrestler? :hmmm:...................J/k dude, great post. :D
 
Duh.. I totally forgot about Japan. Now, wasn't Tsuyoshi Kosaka, the only guy to have a win over Fedor Emelianenko (I know.. it was a cut later determined as an illegal elbow) once in pro-wrestling?

What I don't know is whether RINGS was more of a pro-wrestling organization when Kosaka was there or not.

Anyway, thanks for the info.
I believe RINGS was an MMA organization at the time TK was there..

The most famous wrestler to MMA fighter I can think of right now is Ikuhisa "The Punk" Minowa...

As far as Angle goes, he got beat in a shoot mma bout on national tv by Daniel Puder a contestant on the Tough Enough show...
 
There's been successful transitions among a few Japanese wrastlers. thats a different sports culture altogether though. I know Butterbean, killed Sean O'hare in like 2 minutes. I don't think thier training is up to snuff to compete with true mma pros. Brock is a freak though, and the fight should be somewhat entertaining(depending on how inexperienced his opponent is)...but put him in against any competent mma heavyweight, and i dont think his natural ability will take him too too far. kurt angle thinks he could beat tito ortiz, which is not only a joke, but an insult. he wouldn't fair well in mma either. guys like matt lindland make the transition from wrestler to mma pro look easy. true blue wrestlers like mark kerr, mark coleman, kevin randleman are not top fighters anymore, sad to say...and kurt angle certainly wouldnt do better than any of these guys. so, in a nut shell, wrastlers are wrastlers, and fighters are fighters.

(didnt mean to confuse anyone with wrestlers/wrastlers) true wrestling is an awesome background to have going into mma.

That has nothing to do with the fact that they were wrestlers. Those guys are aging, and are no longer in their prime. Not everybody can be like Randy Couture, and be competetive when they're older.

All those guys were great fighters in their prime.

Angle saying he could beat Ortiz is not an insult, in my opinion. Kurt Angle is a phenomenal wrestler, undoubtedly he could still out-wrestle most guys in MMA, even though he is no longer in his prime. Ortiz is no knockout artist, and he would have his hands full with a guy like Kurt Angle on the ground. While I think the MMA experience gap between the two favors Ortiz, Angle would not go down without a hell of a fight.
 
I always wondered how good the guys in pro-wrestling actually are as fighters. In general, does anyone know (based on history)? Or is Brock the first to seriously make the move?

i remember Randy Couture dominating pro wrestler Tony Halme (sp?) who wrestled in WWF (WWE) as Ludwig Borge in the mid 90's. it was one of Randy's first fights in UFC.
 
Kimbo (youtube fame) is fighting against Ray Mercer in MMA event June 16. Cant wait to see Kimbo get his teeth kicked in.
 
Sakuraba was a pro wrestler that owned the Gracies in MMA......just a thought
 
Ray Mercer the ex boxer?

Yep the one who fought Evander Holyfield. He is in his 40's.

Kimbo Slice Makes MMA Debut on June 16th Against Mercer

NEW YORK - Ray Mercer, a former WBO heavyweight boxing champ and gold medalist in the 1988 Olympics, will take on no-knuckle boxing and Internet legend Kimbo Slice in a three-round exhibition bout utilizing professional MMA rules at the Cage Fury Fighting Championship 5 show, said matchmaker Gary Marino today. Dubbed “Brawl at the Hallâ€Â, CFFC 5 will take place on June 16th at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, New Jersey

http://www.mmaontap.com/mma/entry/kimbo-slice-makes-mma-debut-on-june-16th-against-mercer/
 
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