Idk, 6'5" 230 lbs, the guy sure does have the measurables to get you out of a jam. Just look at how tiny he makes Deion Sanders look below...Peyton would not be the first guy I can think of that I would want to be on my side in a bar fight

Idk, 6'5" 230 lbs, the guy sure does have the measurables to get you out of a jam. Just look at how tiny he makes Deion Sanders look below...Peyton would not be the first guy I can think of that I would want to be on my side in a bar fight
I don't think it's a significant concern to be honest. Cleveland's not wrong, but it's not going to matter that much either. The three keys in being a leader are confidence, talent and effort...and the first two have to come before the last. I think everyone realized Ryan Tannehill probably isn't where he's going to end up being from either confidence or talent standpoints. And when you get all that 'effort' before you have the confidence or talent, that's when you get a Brock Osweiler.
The Browns are not exactly the model of perfection when it comes to talent evaluation in the recent past.
When did we become the gold standard by which drafting QBs is known for?
I saw exactly the opposite during Gruden's QB camp and we've heard quite the opposite coming out of Dolphins camp.
So you are basing everything on the 30 minute Gruden "feel good" QB camp?.
The Browns draft pick will be a 29 year old rookie when the season starts, and frankly he did not impress me as an intelligent leader when I've heard him interviewed (if thats what were gonna base it on).
How many hours did you interview and spend with both Weedon and Tannehill?
ck, thank you for the balanced observations. It's refreshing and without them this thread would be a mud-dishing festival at the Browns with a few guys breaking from the pack to denounce the Tannehill selection. The Browns' assessment is just different, not wrong. Their perspective and desire is different.
The truth on a prospect like Tannehill will always lie somewhere in the middle. It is really tough to step into an environment full of seniors and exude leadership and confidence, and thankfully there have been plenty of great leaders who stepped out of the shadows after learning the ropes. If anyone knows Tannehill, it's Sherman, and I'm comfortable that the Dolphins rolled the dice on a prospect like him full well knowing that he may not be everything. It's an educated risk at worst and major win at best.
weeden didnt fit in here. plain and simple. tannehill will have the longer and better career imo and thats not just bc he is a phin, ive been saying it forever. i wish i saw what you saw in weeden but just dont. and we will see once the bullets start flying.There may be a ring of truth to this as far as what they really feel, however they're making a concerted effort to consolidate support for Brandon Weeden.
Weeden came into rookie camp and OTAs as advertised, impressing everyone with his pure accuracy, timing, throwing ability, mental processing and leadership. They had intended to let Weeden win the job in training camp, but now that is speeding up significantly and there's been a change from a "competition" language, to the Sam Bradford model. The Sam Bradford model involved declaring Sam the starter pretty much right at the kickoff of training camp. They're trying to tap dance around their initial talk about "competition" by claiming that what they really wanted to see was Brandon Weeden come onto the field and "show" that he is who they thought they were drafting in the 1st round. It's a subtle move from a language standpoint but it's actually a pretty significant move. Essentially, whatever "competition" they intended, Brandon Weeden already won it, and so now they're shifting everything in the organization, media and fan base to line up behind the guy.
Part of that is a concerted effort to downplay their interest in other quarterbacks. They didn't just trash talk Tannehill. They said RG3 is "too small" and "too eager to show how fast he can run". They downplayed their interest in trading up for him, saying they only called up the Rams to say they tried, but RG3 was not who they really wanted. They said Matt Flynn is as short as Colt McCoy and has the same "pop gun" arm. And then that's when they said what they said about Ryan Tannehill.
Things are moving more quickly with Brandon Weeden there than even they imagined, so they're just trying to get everyone in line. It's a love fest. Any minute the MPAA is going to label the Cleveland Browns and Brandon Weeden NC-17. They're getting pretty worked up about him.
Part of me is jealous. I don't think Ryan Tannehill is going to be as inspirational in Miami as Weeden is in Cleveland.
Not a good analogy! Danny Wuerffel was a 4th round pick selected by New Orleans, and by the time he got to Washington was already considered by most to be an professional journeyman having played for Green Bay and Chicago respectfully. That said, I understood what you meant.Remember Steve Spurrier with the Redskins blindly standing behind Danny Wuerffel as his quarterback?
We have our QB and they have there's, so bring it on.................
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/43185/browns-questioned-tannehills-leadership
Mike H. felt this way, the QB guru from GB to Seattle to Cleveland, and we're using the same pike line with a different opinion. Interesting.
They questionTannehill's leadership and they said RGIII is too small. Who cares what they think?!?!