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JamesWsenior said:
No no no! Only the teams that need or have recently built new stadiums get the predetermined outcome treatment.
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The guy said FGs are now hitting the posts since Taylor Swift….like these guys have the ability to aim and hit the post from 40+ yards away in freezing windy weather lmfao

It’s an insult to every legitimate franchise and player that’s ever competed, growing up these are some of the most competitive people on Earth. Even the guys at the bottom ,let’s say an UDFA that plays 3 years and makes 500k a year, you are telling me that guy is in on it too? The assistant offensive quality control coach who makes 52k a year is on it?

I don’t doubt there have been money or mob influenced results, like Primo Carnera had well known Italian mafia connections, the Black Sox scandal, Tim Donaghy the NBA ref and others we don’t know about….but to imply that every single championship in every sport is pre determined is probably the dumbest thing I’ve read on this forum .

He should have mounds of evidence to prove it, but he tells me to go research it and find it myself. I don’t have the time to watch dumb YouTube videos spouting conjecture with no real evidence. He probably made the YouTube videos himself
 
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Harold Jackson said:
In other words you're in denial.
You asked, I told you. Youre not willing to learn anything new.
I already answered your question.
And your question is childishly stupid.
Incredibly simple minded ,black and white thinking you're afraid.
And you can't confront that I already told you the date of Miami. I did last year. Are you going to sit in front of your TV next season and hope and think - gee whiz, daddy. Maybe if they just did this or that, there's a chance!?.
Miami has no chance it doesn't matter what happens. = Predetermined
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Ok so if it’s pre determined then who is going to win the title in the 4 major sports for the next 3 years? I’m gonna save your answer and then clown you for being such a tool. Calling people sheep cause we don’t agree with your wild theories.

I’m not in denial, if I see enough factual evidence then I’m open to any theory, but I have a feeling your “evidence” is just a bunch of videos backing up your claims with no factual evidence, just conjecture . I’m not wasting my time researching it, so please share a few links backing up what you say.

Or keep talking in circles cause you have no evidence.
 
Finsup1981 said:
Ok so if it’s pre determined then who is going to win the title in the 4 major sports for the next 3 years? I’m gonna save your answer and then clown you for being such a tool. Calling people sheep cause we don’t agree with your wild theories.

I’m not in denial, if I see enough factual evidence then I’m open to any theory, but I have a feeling your “evidence” is just a bunch of videos backing up your claims with no factual evidence, just conjecture . I’m not wasting my time researching it, so please share a few links backing up what you say.

Or keep talking in circles cause you have no evidence.
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Another remark that shows a complete lack of critical thoughts. Knowiing it's predetermined has nothing to do with knowing the outcome. The same as any movie or wrestling match.
You don't know what factual evidence is. Those are just words you've been trained to repeat. You have to have some amount of wisdom and insight and self awareness.
You are in fact in denial. The league is shoving it right in your face. The Kelce brothers in all the commercials. What two teams played each other twice? The teams they were on. Mahomes, Taylor Swift. Insurance company commercials.
They want a return on the investment.
They got it. Denver and Washington got new owners and boom! They make the playoffs. If you actually paid attention, you'd notice teams magically start winning just before- during or after building new stadiums or getting new owners.
 
Harold Jackson said:
Another remark that shows a complete lack of critical thoughts. Knowiing it's predetermined has nothing to do with knowing the outcome. The same as any movie or wrestling match.
You don't know what factual evidence is. Those are just words you've been trained to repeat. You have to have some amount of wisdom and insight and self awareness.
You are in fact in denial. The league is shoving it right in your face. The Kelce brothers in all the commercials. What two teams played each other twice? The teams they were on. Mahomes, Taylor Swift. Insurance company commercials.
They want a return on the investment.
They got it. Denver and Washington got new owners and boom! They make the playoffs. If you actually paid attention, you'd notice teams magically start winning just before- during or after building new stadiums or getting new owners.
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My god you are an absolute buffoon…talking about critical thinking skills, ok let’s play your dumbass game with our very own Dolphins.

Stephen Ross bought the team in 2009, and the Dolphins record the next few years?

2009 7-9
2010 7-9
2011 6-10
2012 7-9
2013 8-8
2014 8-8
2015 6-10

We don’t even have to leave the state of Florida to show how incorrect your silly theory is. Let’s look at Shahid Khan, who bought the Jaguars in November of 2011, and here’s their record the years after he bought them.

2011 5-11
2012 2-14
2013 4-12
2014 3-13
2015 5-11
2016 3-13

How about we travel north to Carolina, where David Tepper bought the Panthers in 2018

2018 7-9
2019 5-11
2020 5-11
2021 5-12
2022 7-10
2023 2-15
2024 5-12

Want more? Cleveland Browns were bought in 2012

2011 4-12
2012 5-11
2013 4-12
2014 7-9
2015 3-13
2016 1-15
2017 0-16


You are just making up **** at this point, you are tying everything into one giant conspiracy, and while I’m sure there is stuff like what you are implying going on, there isn’t some massive conspiracy orchestrated by a small group of elite, they are not the fking Illuminati.

But hey, let’s not let facts get in the way of your retarded bullshit theory.
 
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Harold Jackson said:
Another remark that shows a complete lack of critical thoughts. Knowiing it's predetermined has nothing to do with knowing the outcome. The same as any movie or wrestling match.
You don't know what factual evidence is. Those are just words you've been trained to repeat. You have to have some amount of wisdom and insight and self awareness.
You are in fact in denial. The league is shoving it right in your face. The Kelce brothers in all the commercials. What two teams played each other twice? The teams they were on. Mahomes, Taylor Swift. Insurance company commercials.
They want a return on the investment.
They got it. Denver and Washington got new owners and boom! They make the playoffs. If you actually paid attention, you'd notice teams magically start winning just before- during or after building new stadiums or getting new owners.
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I'll give you the fact the the leagues/media companies/pentaverate/illuminati try to manipulate games. Taylor Swift and the Chiefs are a prime example last season. That Chiefs team got so many shady calls in 4th quarters it was mind blowing.

But there is too much variance to say it's all set in stone scripted. I'm sure they would like to "script" as much as possible but there's too many variables out of their control to make it happen exactly according to their "script."

Just take this week as an example. Why would they script the Lakers losing in 5 games? That cost the NBA millions of dollars and TV viewers. The NBA was in a death spiral this year until Luka got traded to the Lakers, it revitalized national attention to the NBA, why let that team lose in round 1 and in only 5 games?
 
In 2011, the Boston Bruins won the Stanley Cup.

During their first round matchup with the Canadiens, Tomas Plekanec had an open net in Game 7 OT which would have eliminated the Bruins.

Plekanec came to his senses and hit the post instead, because he remembered that the Bruins were supposed to win that year and subsequently disappointed millions of Habs fans.

Now that's dedication.
 
MrChadRico said:
I'll give you the fact the the leagues/media companies/pentaverate/illuminati try to manipulate games. Taylor Swift and the Chiefs are a prime example last season. That Chiefs team got so many shady calls in 4th quarters it was mind blowing.

But there is too much variance to say it's all set in stone scripted. I'm sure they would like to "script" as much as possible but there's too many variables out of their control to make it happen exactly according to their "script."

Just take this week as an example. Why would they script the Lakers losing in 5 games? That cost the NBA millions of dollars and TV viewers. The NBA was in a death spiral this year until Luka got traded to the Lakers, it revitalized national attention to the NBA, why let that team lose in round 1 and in only 5 games?
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No ,the Lakers losing did not cost the NBA millions. They used Luca as bait. Legal gambling, which all sports are in bed with now , with profit sharing and tv contracts. They made plenty off of people betting that Lakers would win series.
These people are billionaires. They don't make accidental mistakes that the common man can relate to.
And also the matrix - before the series, there was a story that what ever science industry was thinking they could recreate an extinct breed of wolf.
No one's taken LeBron seriously the last 3 years.
 
Finsup1981 said:
My god you are an absolute buffoon…talking about critical thinking skills, ok let’s play your dumbass game with our very own Dolphins.

Stephen Ross bought the team in 2009, and the Dolphins record the next few years?

2009 7-9
2010 7-9
2011 6-10
2012 7-9
2013 8-8
2014 8-8
2015 6-10

We don’t even have to leave the state of Florida to show how incorrect your silly theory is. Let’s look at Shahid Khan, who bought the Jaguars in November of 2011, and here’s their record the years after he bought them.

2011 5-11
2012 2-14
2013 4-12
2014 3-13
2015 5-11
2016 3-13

How about we travel north to Carolina, where David Tepper bought the Panthers in 2018

2018 7-9
2019 5-11
2020 5-11
2021 5-12
2022 7-10
2023 2-15
2024 5-12

Want more? Cleveland Browns were bought in 2012

2011 4-12
2012 5-11
2013 4-12
2014 7-9
2015 3-13
2016 1-15
2017 0-16


You are just making up **** at this point, you are tying everything into one giant conspiracy, and while I’m sure there is stuff like what you are implying going on, there isn’t some massive conspiracy orchestrated by a small group of elite, they are not the fking Illuminati.

But hey, let’s not let facts get in the way of your retarded bullshit theory.
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What did I already say? I said you have such basic two sided, black and white thinking. I'm just giving you some early examples. There's more variables than that. But you aren't ready for that obviously. Yet still I'm not wrong. Telling me I'm making up stuff is just weak and idiotic.
Like I said, There's more than one factor and history that the NFL uses.
Your Dolphins. They got the ultimate undefeated season at the beginning of New era and went back to back, 2-1.
When the franchise was still young. That's why they haven't won since. But the old owners and new owners now constantly make money from hosting super bowls. Stop thinking like a child. There's more than one variable. Try to think like a billionaire that cares more about money and power than what fans of local teams want.
Carolina Panthers- we've already said there's profit sharing. Great, you Cherry picked a team that hasn't won with a new owner recently. But the fact is, in their history they've been to 2 SBs and their price went up after they lost to Manning in the SB. Also- remember when the Panthers and Jags started? In their second year , they both magically made the conference championship.

Cleveland Brown's - remember who they became ? They moved and Became the Ravens. And became SB champions.
The Cleveland Browns were the original Patriots. They won and went to Championships between the 1940s to 60s. Like the Dolphins, after you do something significant, you have to take a back seat for a while. And OSU and the Cavaliers have picked up the slack. The profit sharing NFL doesn't need Cleveland Browns to win yet.
You're not thinking it through. Lol at telling me I'm making stuff up.
There's more than one variable.
 
My god you are ridiculous, I gave you 4 recent examples within the past 15 years and you found a way to make a bullshit excuse about every single one because it doesn’t fit your narrative. You are grasping at straws and it’s almost as funny as it is pathetic.

I’m done with this conversation, I feel my IQ is dropping with every word of yours I read.
 
Finsup1981 said:
My god you are ridiculous, I gave you 4 recent examples within the past 15 years and you found a way to make a bullshit excuse about every single one because it doesn’t fit your narrative. You are grasping at straws and it’s almost as funny as it is pathetic.

I’m done with this conversation, I feel my IQ is dropping with every word of yours I read.
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Now you're showing your ignorance and trolling and just being a difficult narcissist. I countered and told you there's more than one variable and showed you how. You're just being contradictory and difficult.
Lol at grasping straws. You gave 3 or 4 examples of one variable.
I can counter that using one team.
Every time the Rams moved from Cleveland to LA to St Louis, back to LA.. they appeared in championships in short order.
When the Rams moved to St Louis the went the SB vs the new Titans. That's 2 examples that prove me right in one shot.

The Giants build a new Stadium and beat pats twice in that time. Oh, and Jets went to 2 conference championships with Sanchez. Lol. Both teams finished high while the stadium was built.
Cardinals new stadium in 2006. Go to SB in 2008.
Niners- went to 3 conference championships and one SB while Levi's stadium was built. The Kaepernick years.
Falcons new stadium was Opened in 2017. They lost SB in 2016.

Grasping straws? I'm showing you the business model of a billion dollars entertainment industry.
 
Harold Jackson said:
And also the matrix - before the series, there was a story that what ever science industry was thinking they could recreate an extinct breed of wolf.
No one's taken LeBron seriously the last 3 years.
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Can you elaborate on this, its not worded very well? What does Colossal bringing animals back from extinction have to do with the Matrix movies.

Jurassic World i can see but the Matrix?

Fun fact, did you know the Jurrasic Park films and Westworld take place in the same cinema universe.
 
MrChadRico said:
Can you elaborate on this, its not worded very well? What does Colossal bringing animals back from extinction have to do with the Matrix movies.

Jurassic World i can see but the Matrix?

Fun fact, did you know the Jurrasic Park films and Westworld take place in the same cinema universe.
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No, I'm saying there's more than money involved. Esoteric/symbolic. A story about bringing back extinct wolves and then the wolves beat Lakers.
All season there was a phone ad with Mahomes and snoop dog and in the commercial snoop says Mahomes says he's leaving- they go on to lose SB.
 
NY8123 said:
No offense but WTF have he Panthers done? If any Florida ownership needs to take the reins it would be Tampa.
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The Panthers are the reigning Stanley Cup champs and were in the Finals the year before that. They destroyed Tampa Bay in 5 games in their playoff series that just finished.
 
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