I think a 2nd would be good for both sides. The trade I really want is a 4th this year and a 2nd next. I am hoping that Miami trades down with someone, because I think it would make it more likely that Saban would be willing to take picks for next year's draft. I would be willing to give up a 2nd and 4th or 5th this year, but guys like Mr Fan make hope we end up trading down in the draft then trading a 3rd for Surtain so I can read guys like him melting down after acting like they are running the Dolphin's organization.
Also, I think it is pretty funny that people get so upset over Carl offering a 4th. Nobody should have taken that as realistically as all the Chiefs are willing to offer. Saban is basically a rookie right now.
Carl acts like one of those little dogs that think they are a pitbull. He gets a good deal sometimes, but he postures ALL of the time. He is just feeling the rook around to see if he will fold or hold his ground. I don't see how you could really expect him to act any different since he has no experience in negotiating with Saban. It would be funny, in a bad way for me as a Chiefs fan, if we end up giving a 2nd and 4th or something instead just a 2nd because of Carl's posturing. He is just fishing for the best deal possible. Maybe the Cards being alleged to enter the frey will make him hurry up.
Personally, I think we will see this deal go down for a 2nd with maybe a little more or less either way, but not much of a difference. It may not happen until the 2nd round of the draft.