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Chambers Set For HUGE Year

kizzaboo said:
Looks like someone needs a time out.

Calm down buddy... there is no reason to believe that he wont have a 1,000 yard season this year. You seem to be almost disgusted or have lost confidence in our star WR. There isnt one position on this offense that hasnt been upgraded yet, and he had 900 with the team last year that too many problems to me to type, let alone count.
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Perhaps I chose the wrong words, but like I also said in my post, I am a big Chambers fan. I am not disgusted, nor have I lost confidence in our star WR. All I am saying is that Chambers' lack of a "breakout" in years past has been the product of a multitude of factors- coaching, QB, supporting cast, system etc. This year, the coaching is top notch, he has a good group of WRs around him, a system that uses the long ball/passing game aggressively.. Everything seems in place. I realize the QB is still a question mark, but like I have said all along, as long as AJ or Gus play smart and adequate (i.e. no picks, just get the ball to the receiver and let him make the play) then there should be an improvement. Not to mention, the improved coaching, supporting cast and system will certainly improve the QB play anyway... This is the year where it is time for Chris to show us that Dolphin fans who have supported him for 4 years (where he has been very very solid, but not a star) that we were right about him.
 
Fiedler and Wannstedt wouldve made Jerry Rice a bust. Chambers finally sees the light at the end of a long,long tunnel.
 
Im predicting 1175 and 8TDs for CC in this system.
 
chris chambers should excel in this offense...i think linehan will find ways to get him the ball...he is a playmaker...he already said how much he likes the offense...he is already an awesome wr based on talent but not by numbers...hopefully he will be able to do that this year...
 
cltchperf said:
Actually he hasn't been set up for 4 years now, Jay Fiedler couldn't throw a ball 50 yards if his life depended on it, he wasn't accurate either. At least A.J Feeley and Gus Frerrote have more ability, and will at least get the ball to Chambers, Miami actually has coaches that know what they are doing now, The line will be improved, they have a good running back, but they won't put the whole load on R.Brown and be predictable, and take a bunch of oppotunities away from Chambers like Wanny did with 80% run plays. Scott Linehan will also help out too. To view last year as a measuring stick for Chambers is stupid, last year was a wash as I see it, I knew things weren't going to go well for Chambers or any of the players, they gave it their all but it was just as mess, confusion everywhere. Even with all that stuff for the past four years Chambers did good. As far as I'm concerned I cut out last year, and 2002 when Chambers was really doing good until that devastating hit to the head He took in the Denver game, he obviously wasn't the same for the last bunch of games after that. Dispose those two trash years and you have a nice rookie season that Chambers had, and 2003 where he was just under 1,000 yards at 967, but yet with Fiedler, Griese swapping back and forth still had the third highest TDs in the league. He will breakout this year, don't worry about it, I feel pretty confident about that. If not then I would be wonder about chambers also, but I feel he'll only do better now since there's a sense of direction now in Miami under Saban.
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LOL, no offense honestly. I am not trying to make Fiedler something he wasn't.

However, Fiedler and Gailey helped make Chambers the highest YPC average WR in the league. He had over 18 ypc. I keep saying it was Norv Turner not Fiedler that held this offense back.

Chambers rookie year all he did was basically go deep. Sure, Fiedler underthrew or underthrew some but you don't get over 18 ypc without a QB who can't hit you deep.
 
I think under this system CC will do good. I think if the the QB can put the passes on the mark CC will make his frist pro bowl.
 
GRYPHONK said:
LOL, no offense honestly. I am not trying to make Fiedler something he wasn't.

However, Fiedler and Gailey helped make Chambers the highest YPC average WR in the league. He had over 18 ypc. I keep saying it was Norv Turner not Fiedler that held this offense back.

Chambers rookie year all he did was basically go deep. Sure, Fiedler underthrew or underthrew some but you don't get over 18 ypc without a QB who can't hit you deep.
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That's why Chambers is such a good receiver and that's what people forget about him. He almost had 20 yards per catch that year, not many receivers have so many yards per catch. I've never really seen Fiedler launch the ball. That argument is good, but it doesn't prove anything about Fiedler..it proves more for Chambers, he probably would have had 20 or so more yards per catch if Fiedler had the arm strength to launch the ball 50yds deep, the problem was that Fiedler throw an occasional good 30yd ball, and be fairly accurate but he was a weak armed qb, and his accuracy for the most part was not to good. Most of the long TDs Chambers has had, were 20 yard passes that he took 50 yards down the field. How bout the Rams game where Miami blew them out, and Chambers had a 71 yard TD-Fiedler threw a 20 yard pass and Chambers took it the rest of the way, or the Cowboys game with Chambers 3TDs. None of the passes were 50yds. There was on e that was pretty deep maybe 35-40 yard, and the other two where chambers caught the ball spun around Edwards and run for the TD, and the other one was the amazing dive catch, the Texans game, etc. A ton of Chambers long TDs or plays usually came from him running 40 or 50 yards after the catch. If you watch Fiedler throw, you can tell that he has a below average arm, by his soft touch passes, .. And it's not just about arm strength, he wasn't too accurate either, that was very streaky. What he had though was the ability to scramble, and he definitly was aleader, but he just didn't have the ability. Watching Gus, and Feeley you can see that, well atleast Feely definilty has a stronger arm than Fiedler cause he could fling the ball, Feeley can throw the ball pretty well, he's gotta learn how to not make stupid mistakes but hopefully an o-line that blocks, and being comfortable with the system and being a starting qb will help him improve. regardless of how Gus or A.J do, I think they have more ability in passing and being able to get the ball to Chambers going deep, in tighter spaces,etc. Linehan's system will also help Chambers get the opportunities he should have to get the ball
 
cltchperf said:
Actually he hasn't been set up for 4 years now, Jay Fiedler couldn't throw a ball 50 yards if his life depended on it, he wasn't accurate either. At least A.J Feeley and Gus Frerrote have more ability, and will at least get the ball to Chambers, Miami actually has coaches that know what they are doing now, The line will be improved, they have a good running back, but they won't put the whole load on R.Brown and be predictable, and take a bunch of oppotunities away from Chambers like Wanny did with 80% run plays. Scott Linehan will also help out too. To view last year as a measuring stick for Chambers is stupid, last year was a wash as I see it, I knew things weren't going to go well for Chambers or any of the players, they gave it their all but it was just as mess, confusion everywhere. Even with all that stuff for the past four years Chambers did good. As far as I'm concerned I cut out last year, and 2002 when Chambers was really doing good until that devastating hit to the head He took in the Denver game, he obviously wasn't the same for the last bunch of games after that. Dispose those two trash years and you have a nice rookie season that Chambers had, and 2003 where he was just under 1,000 yards at 967, but yet with Fiedler, Griese swapping back and forth still had the third highest TDs in the league. He will breakout this year, don't worry about it, I feel pretty confident about that. If not then I would be wonder about chambers also, but I feel he'll only do better now since there's a sense of direction now in Miami under Saban.
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OK GUYS HOW MANY GAMES WAS WE IN LAst year till the end (all but one ) ok and we did have some people hurt t bo chester zack just to name a few and we was in every game (but one) now we have everybody back except t bo and surtain we now have a running game ..brown williams gordan and kay jay last year we didnt even have a half decent rb and what we did have was hurt and still stayed in every game now boston is back (if he can stay healthy ) yes another if but just think we lost most games by 3 to 10 points now with a running game and another wr (boston) and our ol was showing progress at the end of the year and with the addition of mcdougle guys i see at least 10-6 this year if you watched every game like i did on the ticket feeley didnt realley have time to throw the ball and when he did he was being bull rushed now they just cant depend on the passing game they now have to defend the run which we didnt have last year soo yes i would be disapointed if we dont make it to 10-6 but not disapointed at saban just disapointed because we should have won at least 2 to 3 more games last year than we did but what hurt us alot was feeley getting bull rushed and making bad throws and the other team taking it to the house so imo i am shooting for 10-6 i know that we can do it we do have the talent and that is what im shooting 4 :evil:
 
que41 said:
is there a reciver that had over a 1,000 yds with a qb as bad as jay?
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Keyshawn Johnson had almsot 1,200 yards and 8 TDs w/ Rick Mirer and Ray Lucas at QB in 1999. Just b/c he didn't have Marino throwing to him is no excuse for not having a 1,000 yd season in his first 4 years.
 
Vol&dolfan said:
I think under this system CC will do good. I think if the the QB can put the passes on the mark CC will make his frist pro bowl.
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ProBowl over what WR?

He wont be making the Probowl anytime soon now that Moss is in the AFC.

Moss
Harrison
Hines Ward
Chad Johnson
Andre Johnson

Those guys have the probowls locked up for the next 3 years.



By the Way, Hines Ward had 94 catches and 1000 yards with Kordella Stewart throwing the passes, so drop the No QB stuff.
 
adamprez2003 said:
Fiedler and Wannstedt wouldve made Jerry Rice a bust. Chambers finally sees the light at the end of a long,long tunnel.
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In 1995 Wannstedt had not 1 but TWO WRs go over 1,000 yds. Stop w/ the excuses, Chamber sis a good player but highly overrated to this point in his career, I don't care who the QB or HC/OC is he should have had a 1,000 yd season by now.
 
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