Gsmack_42
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Don’t tell the Hall of Fame, they might take Taylor’s gold jacket.I'm sorry, I didn't know they should only count sacks that are deemed worthy
Don’t tell the Hall of Fame, they might take Taylor’s gold jacket.I'm sorry, I didn't know they should only count sacks that are deemed worthy
They didn't select Chop because they expected these guys back for game 1.I do not expect the team to rush either of them back, but I think they will both be healthier than fans expected to start the season.
It will be 9 months since the injury at the end of August for Phillips. Wake came back from the same injury in 10 months when he was 34 almost a decade ago.. It will be 8+ months (depending on the surgery time) since Chubb torn his ACL when the season starts. I would not be surprised to see both of them practicing in September as both injuries are 6-9 month recoveries with current medical science.
The team has been extremely cautious with injuries since the Tua concussion drama, so they might not get game reps right away.
I remember Michael Strahan's sack to achieve the single-season record where Favre just laid down for him, maybe they should take that away tooDon’t tell the Hall of Fame, they might take Taylor’s gold jacket.
I remember Michael Strahan's sack to achieve the single-season record where Favre just laid down for him, maybe they should take that away too
I don't judge a sacks worthiness, they all countSo in your mind, he earned that sack? Just because it's on the stat sheet?
I don't judge a sacks worthiness, they all count
So by your rationale Bradley Chubb was slightly better than Nick Bosa last year, who only had 10.5 sacks in 2023 and that you can judge a players total value based on the outcome of 10 or 11 individual plays out of a 1000. And when more than 27% of those "stats" came in one game against the worst OT in the league, you ignore it completely?
I don't judge a player's total value by any one metric, that would make no sense.So by your rationale Bradley Chubb was slightly better than Nick Bosa last year, who only had 10.5 sacks in 2023 and that you can judge a players total value based on the outcome of 10 or 11 individual plays out of a 1000. And when more than 27% of those "stats" came in one game against the worst OT in the league, you ignore it completely?
Are 10.5 sacks for Bosa concerning to the Niners? Heck no, he's double teamed on every play and had produced some monster seasons.
Chubb's career sack average was below 6 a year, before 2023. Which makes you wonder how he got 11 to begin with. Once you start digging, you can see why this "career year" happened.
I don't think he ever said that. Your hate for Chubb blinds you on this topic. He had a good year and is a good player. Until you go through every single player's sacks and see how many were unblocked, against poor competition, QB held the ball too long, etc., then it is a pointless discussion.
Which is why stats aren't an end all be all for discussing a player's impact. Stats don't tell the whole story in football, like they primarily do in basketball and baseball. The "stats" he put up last year were an anomaly for his career, which is why it was worth taking a closer look at those "stats". We use stats a projector for future production, so when I look at this, I wonder where that future production will come from. When I see 3 sacks against the Jets and arguably the worst LT and QB in the NFL, I wonder what good that will do me in terms of competing for the Super Bowl. I look at the teams that scored 56 and 48 points against us last year and I am concerned about what's going to be different next time.
I don't judge a player's total value by any one metric, that would make no sense.
Question, though: Were Bosa's sacks all legit against only top talent or did he get some he didn't "earn"?
Again, if we are going to 'qualify' stats against Chubb for 'lesser' competition, we must also 'qualify' all sacks by all other players. It is reasonable to assume all players get more sacks against 'lesser' players, thus, the reason they're called 'lesser' players.
And, again, I'm not arguing Chubb is elite, but he's a good player. I doubt he'll be back in Sept., but when he returns, he will help Miami's pass rush.
I mean I am trying to stay out of the smack talking.... This was golden.Don’t tell the Hall of Fame, they might take Taylor’s gold jacket.
I don’t believe Chubb or Phillips’ injury had any impact on the team selecting Chop. I would be shocked to see him start on a high snap count week 1 in Weaver’s system. I don’t see him being more than a situational pass rusher early on.They didn't select Chop because they expected these guys back for game 1.
Mid season is when I expect them back, its not just the injury its the muscle rebuild and trust that takes quite a bit of time.
Yes, however players that are productive year in and year out get the benefit of the doubt.
When you look at Chubbs sacks and then you look at Watt, Bosa, Hunter, Crosby and Garrett's sacks, they don't look the same. Chubb can't destroy blocks like those guys, or even like Jaelen Philips could. The disruption factor isn't higher with BC.
I've always maintained that what Chubb lacks in physical prowess he does make up for with effort. He's a high effort guy for sure.