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clayton: dolphins out of rg3 race due to....

well, lets put it this way. Us being out of this thing does not benefit St Louis. They either deal the skins the pick or they get nothing. I hate to tell ya'll this, but Cleveland aint sellin their 2 1's. they are sitting right where they are and listen up here, may go after Flynn. That happens, and we get Manning, game over for St louis. All Washington has to do then is make sure they get their man when he falls to them. Nothing is happening here folks. Cleveland, Washington, and Miami are waiting for Manning, Flynn, and even talking Tannehill in the process.

Washington is in the drivers seat should they want that #2. But what St Louis is after is Cleveland's picks. Cleveland knows this. They aint budging. They want their picks. If RG3 falls to them, so be it, they take him and keep their other pick.

So you see, we are not out of if and if we somehow get shorted on Manning and Washington or Cleveland take Flynn, the pricetag comes down or nothing gets sold at all and St Louis still picks #2. On any other given year, St louis would have it made. Manning and Flynn really screwed things up. And all the while you keep hearing tidbits that Cleveland may want Flynn and use their other two picks to better the entire team. Same with Washington. Really, St louis is the ones who put this out to Clayton. Its rather obvious isnt it?

We are waiting on Manning. Thats why we are not in this thing.

You're purely assuming that no one else is interested in trading up. There has been a few reports of at least 1 (surprise)team outside of the top 10 already calling STL. Washington does have an advantage in that they'll have a higher pick to offer but i'd bet anything that other teams will be involved before this is all said and done. You assume it's just Miami, Cleveland and Washignton and if Miami signs Manning, Cleveland signs Flynn then STL will be lucky to get much from Washington. Thats just not the case
 
I'm so torn on Manning. Theres no denying his credentials, but even if he was close to 100% again...we are getting a guy that is on the downside of his career. Which means win now or nothing.

Flynn and even RG3 intrigue me more simply because of the potential of them sticking for a longer period of time (and of course their abilities), opening the window to build around them for a super bowl run LONG term. Manning has to get us to the SB now for it to be worth it. Only my opinion, anyone else share those concerns?
 
Read the thread and you will see where it comes from. Certainly not from me


It wouldnt take two entire drafts. thats exaggerating.

An entire draft is possible. Two entire drafts is completely unreasonable.
 
You're purely assuming that no one else is interested in trading up. There has been a few reports of at least 1 (surprise)team outside of the top 10 already calling STL. Washington does have an advantage in that they'll have a higher pick to offer but i'd bet anything that other teams will be involved before this is all said and done. You assume it's just Miami, Cleveland and Washignton and if Miami signs Manning, Cleveland signs Flynn then STL will be lucky to get much from Washington. Thats just not the case


St Louis wants Clevelands picks. Cleveland aint gonna budge. Why should they give them those picks when they know they will not draft RG3? If Washington wants RG3, they will simply do the deal. But then we keep hearing that they are eyeing Manning first.


Whether someone out of the top 10 is interested, St Louis doesnt really care. They want what Cleveland has.

groundhog day.
 
if Flynn works great but man is this stupid. Its like the Cassell trade, oh look he had 16 games of film and looked great okay um theres a reason why he ****ing went in the late rounds and don't say Brady did too because theres been only 1 brady in the last 100 years so please be LOGICAL.

I don't like this flynn idea at all looks identical to Moore.

I don't care what round he was drafted in, players can and do get better and NFL folks can be wrong. Brady, Kurt Warner, TJ Yates.Matt Schaub, Doug Flutie, Jeff Garcia, Joe Thiesman, Warren Moon,

ALL of these QB's were either not drafted in the first round or not drafted at all. Not to mention hundreds of players at other positions that NFL so called experts thought wouldn't amount to anything. I'd sign flynn and hedge my bet with Tannehill. I'd go into the season with Flynn, Moore and Tannehill and hope one of them can actually play. And I still have all of my draft picks.
 
RGIII, and Flynn will be high. Will Ireland and company go that high remains to be seen. I kinda think they're still enamored with Manning and picking up a QB in the draft. Either way a major change is coming.
 
How far does St. Louis want to trade down, that has to factor into this equation. With the second pick they can choose whomever they deem a true blue chip player.
How far can they trade back for that player(s). Miami's 8th overall may be to far to drop and still get the player they want, unless they plan on trading back up. I'm sure the Rams are trying to play out every scenerio.
 
i just hope flynn goes to Washington. Ill be laughing my *** off at st louis. and then we can talk to Minnesota right after St louis picks at 2. provided Manning is not ours.
 
If I'm the Browns, I say and do nothing. RGIII is only worth what someone is willing to pay, unless more than 1 team starts talking trade RGIII is worth only what the Browns wish to pay.
 
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