Colts give Jonathan Taylor permission to be Traded | Page 137 | FinHeaven - Miami Dolphins Forums

Colts give Jonathan Taylor permission to be Traded

Deadline is looming. Anyone hearing anything?

Just my two cents… I graduated the year Wilkins came to Suffield Academy. He’s probably the most likable person imaginable and a great teammate. Honestly at first I was shocked to hear he turned down that kind of money but in the end after thinking about it……This is a violent sport! I don’t think that the Dolphins should extend him but I would love to see him get his money somewhere else because while dominant defensive tackles are nice they are not a cornerstone in Fangio’s system. We need to have a surplus of good to dominant corners and edge rushers.

Honestly JT would open up this offense like none other with all the speed on the outside.. defenses in the NFL would literallly just be picking their poison.
 
DrMultimedia said:
In other words, this thread can be continued all season since the trade could happen at some point in the future. 🤣
Click to expand...
It certainly has a chance of topping the “Cook is Cooking” thread if Taylor isn’t traded before the season starts.

That just means this thread will be used to discuss many more unrelated topics if he isn’t traded soon.
 
GatorFin73 said:
I could certainly be wrong on our approach to Wilkins but doubt we are trading him, think we are waiting to finalize his contract after the dust settles on the rest of our roster construction given he will be such a big piece of things. Do we get Taylor, do we not, any other surprises? Once settled we will be in a better position to nail down Wilkins one way or the other, a new contract or playing out this year on his rook deal with plans to possibly franchise tag him next.
Click to expand...
I hope you are right. Because I want Wilkins as part of this team for years to come.
 
The Ghost said:
What about all the players who's contracts aren't paid? You're saying only the really good players contracts should have to honor their "contracts"? Also, is it really a contract when you're forced into it and can't negotiate any part of it?

NFLPA has to fight hard for the removal of the fifth year option for first round picks as well as eliminating the franchise tag.
Click to expand...
I mean zero disrespect, but I have no idea what your point is. The NFLPA agreed to the current bargaining deal, so this is the world we live in today. Every player under contract has the choice to honor it or not get paid. They are free to negotiate for more money just like their team is free to not offer it. It doesn’t matter if you are making the league minimum or $50M, a contract is a contract.

Beyond that, for every player who is seemingly hurt by the 5th year contract there is a player whose career is saved by the team drafting them giving them 1 more year to develop. Most players end up with a contract extension before that 5th year deal even begins.

It is beyond clear the Dolphins have offered Wilkins a contract that would set his family up for life. I have absolutely no pity if he refuses to sign it because he wants a record setting deal. Particularly when he doesn’t have to pay state taxes for home games, so a deal is worth more overall money than a guy like Dexter Lawrence got despite not having the flashy title of “record breaking”.

As a final note you are absolutely crazy if you think owners will give up the franchise tag and 5th year options. The NFLPA has nothing of equivalent value to offer them.
 
bigfoot said:
HDMI1
Click to expand...

The Rock Eye Roll GIF by WWE
 
The Goat said:
I would bet money it's the Eagles.
Click to expand...
I can't see that. D'Andre Swift wanted out of Detroit after the Lions drafted Gibbs. If the Eagles trade for Taylor, Swift would have gotten screwed again. It's more likely the team is flat out made up.
 
ThePeopleShow13 said:
I mean zero disrespect, but I have no idea what your point is. The NFLPA agreed to the current bargaining deal, so this is the world we live in today. Every player under contract has the choice to honor it or not get paid. They are free to negotiate for more money just like their team is free to not offer it. It doesn’t matter if you are making the league minimum or $50M, a contract is a contract.

Beyond that, for every player who is seemingly hurt by the 5th year contract there is a player whose career is saved by the team drafting them giving them 1 more year to develop. Most players end up with a contract extension before that 5th year deal even begins.

It is beyond clear the Dolphins have offered Wilkins a contract that would set his family up for life. I have absolutely no pity if he refuses to sign it because he wants a record setting deal. Particularly when he doesn’t have to pay state taxes for home games, so a deal is worth more overall money than a guy like Dexter Lawrence got despite not having the flashy title of “record breaking”.

As a final note you are absolutely crazy if you think owners will give up the franchise tag and 5th year options. The NFLPA has nothing of equivalent value to offer them.
Click to expand...

This is how strikes happen.

NFL contracts are decidedly weighted heavily in favor of the owners/teams, and the NFLPA would be ill-suited to not try to go after either 5th year options or franchise tags, particularly considering the fervor over RB devaluation recently.
 
ThePeopleShow13 said:
As a final note you are absolutely crazy if you think owners will give up the franchise tag and 5th year options. The NFLPA has nothing of equivalent value to offer them.
Click to expand...

That's the whole point, 32 NFL owners have colluded to limit the ability of players to make the amount of money they should.

Why did the Vikings not honor Dalvin Cook's contract? But instead release him after he had no chance to recoup that money?

I get that a player needs to prove himself for 2-3 years, 5 years though? That's ridiculous.
 
bward6460 said:
I can't see that. D'Andre Swift wanted out of Detroit after the Lions drafted Gibbs. If the Eagles trade for Taylor, Swift would have gotten screwed again. It's more likely the team is flat out made up.
Click to expand...

If I was Howie Roseman, I sure as heck wouldn't feel confident with a backfield of De'Andre Swift, Rashaad Penny, Boston Scott and Kenny Gainwell. You think Miami's backfield gets banged up? Rashaad Penny might miss 4 games if he cuts himself shaving.

Also, there's more than one reputable source out there saying there's another team creeping into this. I don't think that Indy beat writers are just going to print the musings of Jim Irsay as factual.
 
The Goat said:
This is how strikes happen.

NFL contracts are decidedly weighted heavily in favor of the owners/teams, and the NFLPA would be ill-suited to not try to go after either 5th year options or franchise tags, particularly considering the fervor over RB devaluation recently.
Click to expand...
The reality is that the union knows they can’t hold a strike together because the players have too much to lose. A large percentage are not saving for catastrophes and aren’t prepared to lose game checks.

Further, the disparity between the top 10% that can afford it and the bottom 50% that can’t means that bottom 50% feels like they are losing money to line the pockets of the top guys.

The strike in 87 proved that fans root for laundry, not players. It isn’t something the NFL forgot.

So, the way it has worked the last few negotiations is that the NFL budges on things like the 5th year option in exchange for something the NFLPA gives up. Or the NFL gets something by giving something from the last contract up.

I believe the contract slotting for draftees was to the benefit of existing veterans. It shifted salary cap space from guys who never played to guys getting rewarded for their play. Wasn’t the fifth year option part of that negotiation?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom